02:10 greatnews : do we have to log in somewhere else for the change in ustream location?
02:10 mrsdurff : they'll be back
02:11 robinellis : no greatnews
02:11 greatnews : thanks!
02:11 carbru123 : OK missing you already ;-))
02:11 mrsdurff : no stay here greatnews
02:11 suewaters : thanks @chriswherly and @carbru123 for sharing your thoughts
02:11 kgustin : hi darren
02:11 kajigga : I see you just fine.
02:11 suewaters : on blog post
05:11 kgustin : i can hear much better
05:11 suewaters : he was on
05:11 kevinessdack : Hi Darren!
05:11 kgustin : yes
05:11 mrsdurff : hi
05:11 suewaters : he is back
05:11 kgustin : yea
05:11 suewaters : hi
05:11 carbru123 : Wow so loud!!
05:11 greatnews : Woot! sounds good
05:11 suewaters : well that is Darren for you
05:11 KimberlyMcClain : serious echo here
05:11 mrsdurff : what better way?
05:11 cnelson : best way by seat of pants
05:11 tjtech : echo is bad
05:11 mrsdurff : i did that last block
05:11 robinellis : yes Cathy it is
05:12 mrsdurff : no echo here
05:12 suewaters : @sarahstewart morning to New Zealand
05:12 mrsdurff : no
05:12 eyore15 : big time
05:12 greatnews : no echo here
05:12 suewaters : no echo here
05:12 robinellis : no me
05:12 kevinessdack : No
05:12 cnelson : tjtech r u lsitening inskype and ustream?
05:12 chriswherley : no echo here
05:12 tjtech : yes
05:12 carbru123 : No echo here
05:12 KimberlyMcClain : like the Grand Canyon
05:12 kgustin : no echo
05:12 SarahStewart : Hi everyone, I am just dropping in to see how ustream works
05:12 tjtech : ustream
05:12 mrsdurff : use headphones
05:12 suewaters : r u running two ustreams like I was?
05:12 kwork : sounds good
05:12 cnelson : cld have ustream openn we and in wiki too
05:12 mrsdurff : we are good for liftoff
05:12 SarahStewart : I am a midwifery lecturer in New Zealand: 9.12 am here
05:13 jgustin : Welcome sarah
05:13 suewaters : glad you could join us @sarah
05:13 darrendraper : http://faeleland2.wikispaces.com/
05:13 kgustin : welcome Sarah!
05:13 SarahStewart : Should be doing phd work but procrastinating as usual
05:14 suewaters : @sarah this is more fun
05:14 mrsdurff : procrastination is an art
05:14 SarahStewart : you're quite rite @suewaters
05:14 mrsdurff : it should be practiced often
05:14 cnelson : 'collaborating on projects/collaborative presos
05:14 mrsdurff : learners using wikis to do reports in groups
05:14 mrplough07 : I have student run wikis where they host student samples of work in my course
05:15 SarahStewart : i'm a expert, mrsdurff
05:15 mrsdurff : on biomes
05:15 kgustin : we collaborating with other classes
05:15 greatnews : I just learned to embed a survey from ZohoCreator in my wikispace. Worked great!
05:15 mrsdurff : i have never seen them so engaged!
05:15 chriswherley : somebody is talking in background teaching about gmail
05:15 mrsdurff : use deep web sources
05:15 darrendraper : http://nhsworldlit.wikispaces.com/
05:16 mrsdurff : they are old enough to swim in the deep end now
05:16 lauriev88 : English teachers use it for writing pieces then peer editing/feedback
05:16 carbru123 : Use mine for teaching - last one was a grade 5 early man lesson
05:16 carbru123 : http://springfieldearlyman.pbwiki.com/AllPages
05:16 tjtech : We use it for our Software Approval so staff not on the committee can participate
05:16 mrsdurff : springfield, pa?
05:16 suewaters : Sarah's using hers to create her online portfolio for being a midwife
05:17 mrsdurff : yes staff use a wiki for staff homework pages
05:17 carbru123 : Havving problems hearing - bad echo - sorry yes, it is veritas
05:17 SarahStewart : What about wikieducator: http://wikieducator.org/Open_access_midwifery_education
05:17 tlehmann : kerrie would like for us to do book study like that next year with staff. what do u think?
05:18 suewaters : @carbru123 do u want them to add u to Skype
05:18 carbru123 : veritas
05:18 jgustin : Kerrie's class wiki http://gustinspace.wikispaces.com/
05:18 kgustin : yes, i do want to do that book study
05:18 cnelson : cld be that ustream open in its on tab, and then openpd open in a tab
05:18 kgustin : like jamie is doing on his blog
05:18 mrplough07 : yes
05:18 mrplough07 : you talking about wikipedias online text
05:19 suewaters : please add Jenny to skype Darren jenny.luca1
05:19 SarahStewart : My eportfolio using wikispaces : http://sarahstewart-eportfolio.wikispaces.com/
05:19 tlehmann : his is with a classroom right - cool-would like to try with staff as well.
05:19 suewaters : Jenny can't access ustream
05:19 mrplough07 : I think we are talking about 2 diff things
05:19 greatnews : The survey I created with ZohoCreator was for our tech group-you can complete the survey on the wikispace. http://tinyurl.com/yq25bz
05:19 kgustin : his is with tech people
05:19 suewaters : add to skype jenny.luca1
05:20 jerthebear : Wow!! Horrible echo!
05:20 cnelson : qiestion abt wiki---only one edit at a time?
05:20 carbru123 : Still the echo despite the refresh
05:20 kajigga : Cool wiki video: (48 mins) http://youtube.com/watch?v=WMSinyx_Ab0
05:20 robinellis : yes on same page
05:20 mrsdurff : yes cathy
05:20 kgustin : some high school kids did it with him when they did The World is Flat
05:20 cnelson : googledocs allows multiple ppl editing--wikis dont?
05:20 suewaters : no echo
05:20 KimberlyMcClain : my echo disappeared when I closed one of the windows
05:20 mrsdurff : i changed sound card to eliminate it
05:21 mrplough07 : I have a student from each of my 3 courses that hosts our class wiki of student samples, here is one https://travelandtourism2.wikispaces.com/
05:21 tjtech : I closed my browser and reopend the page and echo went away
05:21 mrsdurff : i believe padded cell
05:21 darrendraper : @cnelson Yes, only one edit at a time.
05:21 SarahStewart : My colleague is vet nurse educator & has written wiki book. it is very successful: http://wikieducator.org/The_Anatomy_and_Physiology_of_Animals
05:21 mrsdurff : think of darren in a padded cell
05:21 greatnews : Thanks for video on wikis-missed that on Twitter
05:21 robinellis : @cnelson you may have different ppl editing different pages
05:21 suewaters : @theother66 hi welcome to ustream even if you aren't logged in :)
05:22 cnelson : @robinellis thanks
05:22 kgustin : that's why I subcatagorize
05:22 cnelson : googledocs
05:22 jerthebear : ahhh...much better. I didn't realize it opened up 2 windows.
05:22 mrsdurff : different people on different pages
05:22 jgustin : Vicki Davis' Flat Classroom Project wiki http://flatclassroomproject.wikispaces.com/
05:22 kgustin : lots of different pages and work in groups
05:22 kgustin : or rotate on the class computers
05:22 cnelson : yes subgategorize
05:23 mrsdurff : i give a due date to lock them out
05:23 eyore15 : i just lost me live video
05:23 mrsdurff : they work on in and out of class
05:23 cnelson : great idea durff
05:23 robinellis : eyeore15 are you on wireless
05:23 tasteach : I did my history wiki in pairs, but only one student at a time could make changes on one page
05:23 mrsdurff : by midnight
05:24 suewaters : Darren have you add jenny.luca1 to skype
05:24 mrsdurff : i give groups there own wikis
05:24 suewaters : Hi @tasteach from Tasmania Australia
05:24 tasteach : hi Sue from WA
05:24 suewaters : @tasteach they will think I'm in Washington now
05:24 mrsdurff : :)
05:24 tasteach : sorry Western AustrLIA
05:25 tasteach : THINK THEY KNOW YOU ALREADY
05:25 tasteach : sorry about caps
05:25 mrsdurff : sue gets around
05:25 carbru123 : Which is the best wiki PB wiki or wiki spaces
05:25 greatnews : Any tutorials on text editing on wikis?
05:25 greatnews : I'm struggling with the text editor (not the visual editor)
05:25 mrsdurff : wikispaces is better i think
05:26 lauriev88 : Off topic but...what are you using to stream your desktop?
05:26 carbru123 : Ok will try that this thanks Mrs D
05:26 tasteach : some of my students had trouble on wikiispaces changing colours
05:26 kwork : @carbru123 I think pb wiki is more intuitive/easy to learn, but wikispaces is more powerful
05:26 mrsdurff : probably Camtwist
05:26 SarahStewart : wot about wetpaint
05:26 suewaters : please add joedale100 to skype
05:27 suewaters : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/
05:27 mrsdurff : need more coffee...
05:27 jgustin : @Laurie Camtwist on the Mac or many cam on the PC
05:27 lauriev88 : thanks all!
05:28 SarahStewart : can watchers speak in ustream
05:28 SarahStewart : like in elluminate
05:28 kwork : @sarahstewart if you want it to have a nice custom look, wetpaint is easier, but again if you want power and functionality, wikispaces seems better
05:28 jgustin : @ Sarah to talk you have to come into the Skype call
05:28 greatnews : @sarahstewart-no just chat in ustream
05:28 carbru123 : Doesnt wetpaint stillhave all those adverts?
05:28 SarahStewart : thanks
05:29 greatnews : can only talk if you are on the Skype call
05:29 SarahStewart : yes carbru
05:29 cnelson : SueWaters edublogs PRO
05:29 SarahStewart : sue is the fish person
05:29 cnelson : LOL alterego
05:29 SarahStewart : LOL
05:30 carbru123 : Just wrote to your blog tonight Sue!
05:30 cnelson : u r kidding!!!
05:30 suewaters : thanks @carbru
05:30 mrsdurff : yeah Sue!!
05:30 suewaters : @durff :)
05:30 mrplough07 : how do you become an intl known blogger in one year?
05:30 robinellis : with a lot of writing
05:31 cnelson : @mrplough07 good question and nominated for eddie too
05:31 kwork : @carbru123, yes it still has advertisements
05:31 gracekat : and answering newbies' questions on twitter..
05:31 darrendraper : Sue's post about today's class: http://tinyurl.com/562h7r
05:32 greatnews : Sue moved away from her mic
05:32 carbru123 : Bad echo for me Sue - cant hear you!
05:32 greatnews : very very soft Sue
05:32 kwork : @mrplough07 great question..working on that one myself
05:32 greatnews : it was really loud before
05:32 mrsdurff : i hear Sue fine
05:32 cnelson : which is why i vewhich is why I vehemently advertise AGAINST blogger (sorry for the shout)
05:33 cnelson : its abt conversation threads from the cmments
05:33 cnelson : and posts
05:33 kgustin : i hear sue fine
05:33 cnelson : yes
05:33 robinellis : yes
05:33 greatnews : better
05:33 carbru123 : Much better;-))
05:33 cnelson : speak slower accent strong
05:33 cnelson : : )
05:33 carbru123 : Sloower
05:33 mrplough07 : lol
05:33 tasteach : no accent there at all SUe
05:33 ilianawhite : ok I am back...
05:33 cnelson : LOL
05:33 mrsdurff : speak faster in Australian
05:34 cnelson : whos rebooting?
05:34 mrplough07 : sue needs to stop reading the chat flow :)
05:34 mrsdurff : that darren guy
05:34 SarahStewart : we think & act much quicker dwonunder!
05:34 cnelson : me too
05:34 mrsdurff : we distract her
05:34 cnelson : nope
05:34 mrsdurff : i don't have a landline
05:35 eyore15 : i keep a seperate email account for students who wish to contact me
05:35 mrsdurff : i don't
05:35 mrsdurff : sounds silly to me
05:35 carbru123 : Sue can you talk a bit slower please
05:35 mrsdurff : i am totally transparent
05:35 suewaters : I wil try
05:35 mrplough07 : my phone number has been in the book for 4 years, never had one call
05:35 mrsdurff : no problems whatsoever
05:35 mrsdurff : not in maryland
05:36 KimberlyMcClain : I've never had problems with students having my cell phone number, except when I was coaching
05:36 cnelson : Chris Lehman bemoaned that parents think he is available 24-7
05:36 mrsdurff : darren is unique
05:36 mrsdurff : i am available 24-7
05:36 carbru123 : What about students accessing your FaceBk?
05:36 mrsdurff : it's my jov
05:36 mrsdurff : job
05:36 mrsdurff : it's what i do
05:36 carbru123 : slow but good'
05:36 cnelson : no to stud-my facebook
05:37 tasteach : I commented back on my blog about your twitter last night
05:37 mrsdurff : i don't have facebook
05:37 mrsdurff : that is their space
05:37 carbru123 : I agree not even when they are growned up!!
05:37 eyore15 : parents have my classroom number, but most of them want to use email. The school account is the "official" one - it MST be used due to state law that requires archieving all emails that address students
05:38 mrsdurff : we are a private school
05:38 kevinessdack : I have a facebook account.
05:38 kdumont : I think you should choose what works best for you as far as accessibility.
05:38 carbru123 : I have a FaceBook search for Carolynn Bruton Cape Town
05:38 kdumont : They don't need access to all, you need to be able to maintain some privacy for you and your family
05:38 carbru123 : I have a FaceBook search for Carolynn Bruton Cape Town
05:38 kdumont : They don't need access to all, you need to be able to maintain some privacy for you and your family
05:38 tasteach : the kids love writing back to comments they have received
05:38 mrsdurff : i think being on-call teaches learners far more than being cut off
05:38 mrsdurff : they do!
05:39 cnelson : Sue do u moderate your comments?
05:39 kgustin : In 2nd grade - I use my blog to extend and discuss what we are learning in the classroom. It has become a great workstation for my kids.
05:39 mrsdurff : i have one who counts his comments every class
05:39 mrplough07 : @cnelson - by moderate do you mean get rid of the ones you dont like?
05:39 mrsdurff : i use blogmeister
05:39 kgustin : We are on it constantly, and it is really strengthen their understanding.
05:39 carbru123 : Please post your blog URL kgustin
05:39 cnelson : and THAT is why i do not like blogger--cant really subscribe to comments which I dislike. I want to subscribe to posts and comments
05:40 mrsdurff : i have to approve before anyone sees it
05:40 tasteach : i moderate every comment on both my class blog and the students individual blogs
05:38 tasteach : the kids love writing back to comments they have received
05:38 mrsdurff : i think being on-call teaches learners far more than being cut off
05:38 mrsdurff : they do!
05:39 cnelson : Sue do u moderate your comments?
05:39 kgustin : In 2nd grade - I use my blog to extend and discuss what we are learning in the classroom. It has become a great workstation for my kids.
05:39 mrsdurff : i have one who counts his comments every class
05:39 mrplough07 : @cnelson - by moderate do you mean get rid of the ones you dont like?
05:39 mrsdurff : i use blogmeister
05:39 kgustin : We are on it constantly, and it is really strengthen their understanding.
05:39 carbru123 : Please post your blog URL kgustin
05:39 cnelson : and THAT is why i do not like blogger--cant really subscribe to comments which I dislike. I want to subscribe to posts and comments
05:40 mrsdurff : i have to approve before anyone sees it
05:40 tasteach : i moderate every comment on both my class blog and the students individual blogs
05:40 cnelson : i moderate but most get approved
05:40 tlehmann : it clarifies Student understanding and identifies misunderstandings or confusions too
05:40 mrsdurff : i have to approve before anyone sees it
05:40 tasteach : i moderate every comment on both my class blog and the students individual blogs
05:40 cnelson : i moderate but most get approved
05:40 tlehmann : it clarifies Student understanding and identifies misunderstandings or confusions too
05:40 cnelson : had to slam the door on a person who was against Lasik, which I blogged abt--they wanted to make a post not a comment after a while.
05:41 kgustin : I moderate and everyone but the kids who have no permission to publish get approved
05:41 kgustin : you're right Tammy
05:41 cnelson : b/c of blogging and twiteer frends, felt I knew MOST folks at Educon 2.0
05:41 mrsdurff : muted mic?
05:41 suewaters : I'm getting really bad echo
05:41 suewaters : now every time I talk
05:42 carbru123 : I'm afraid so am I
05:42 cnelson : skype and the wiki open together w/o muting one or the other will cause a funky echo
05:42 jerthebear : How do some of you get your teachers to try these amazing tools? I've had a difficult enough time getting them to use Powerpoint and their LCD projectors. :)
05:42 greatnews : The accept window may be buried behind some open windows for Joe
05:42 suewaters : Hi Grace
05:42 gracekat : hey Sue :)
05:42 suewaters : good to see you here @grace
05:42 robinellis : I agree with students I believe moderation is important
05:42 darrendraper-1 : Good point, greatnews.
05:43 kevinessdack : They will when there is something there!
05:43 eyore15 : is anyone from the u.s. going to necc where we could discuss in person?
05:43 cnelson : have a parent workshop ad show the tools, show hoe to use a reader
05:43 kgustin : I know the parents come, they just don't always leave comments
05:43 mrsdurff : tell them it's how to keep tabs on their kid
05:43 kgustin : they come and talk to me about my blog all the time
05:43 cnelson : @kgustin I feel that way too.
05:43 cnelson : many ppl tell me they read but never comment
05:43 lauriev88 : @eyore15-- yep, going to NECC!
05:43 SarahStewart : kgustin: youy have to accept that the large majority of people wont comment
05:43 robinellis : @eyeore15 yes some of us will be
05:43 mrsdurff : so they can subscribe in their RSS reader
05:43 jgustin : @eyore I will be at NECC
05:43 cnelson : YES darren
05:43 tlehmann : my parents weren't but I started using it my students in the classroom and now parents are telling me that their children are kicking them off the computer at night to go to my blog.
05:43 kgustin : doesnt bother me, all of my kids comment
05:44 cnelson : and its okay I tell them
05:44 SarahStewart : it does take time to build this activity
05:44 gracekat : I'm glad I'm not at work so I can attend - I'll have to get ready htough in 15 mins
05:44 kgustin : they have to comment, I have over 250 comments on my blog in total
05:44 darrendraper-1 : If you blog with your students, you can required them to comment. :)
05:44 SarahStewart : as sue says, takes time from you
05:44 robinellis : yes Sarah it does
05:44 mrsdurff : parents don't feel they are allowed to comment
05:44 darrendraper-1 : I like that.
05:44 tasteach : but you find that with the kids blogs, if a kid visits they usually make a comment
05:44 kevinessdack : Most people are intellectual shoplifters
05:44 mrsdurff : but i know they read
05:44 mrsdurff : i like that kevin!
05:44 scmorgan : Could some of you post links to your student blogs?
05:44 darrendraper-1 : Great point, @kevinessdack.
05:44 SarahStewart : 31 day project is great
05:45 tasteach : http://tasteach.edublogs.org
05:45 mrsdurff : intellectual shoplifters
05:45 kgustin : http://magnoliaisdcommunities.org/communities/kgustin
05:45 tasteach : that's mine
05:45 mrsdurff : yeah hang on
05:45 suewaters : http://tasteach.edublogs.org/
05:45 SarahStewart : shoplifting is not right
05:45 scmorgan : thanks!
05:45 tasteach : http://wyatt67.edublogs.org
05:45 SarahStewart : they are learning in another way
05:45 kevinessdack : Lurkers, borrowers
05:45 kevinessdack : sure
05:45 kevinessdack : lemme grab headphones
05:45 suewaters : Please take time to read the comments on my post http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/2008/04/09/share-your-blogging-experience-tips-for-participants-from-open-pd/
05:46 darrendraper-1 : Kevin, skype info?
05:46 cnelson : http://cmslib.edublogs.org/
05:46 robinellis : he is getting headset Darren
05:46 kevinessdack : skype: kevinessdack
05:46 mrsdurff : http://www.classblogmeister.com/blog.php?blogger_id=56473 click on the right hand side on study skills to see student names then on their names to go to their blog
05:46 SarahStewart : they may not they may not comment but may be pollinating in other ways
05:46 cnelson : http://mrgranito.edublogs.org/
05:46 cnelson : Mr Granito is one I coached int it
05:46 carbru123 : http://carbru.wordpress.com/
05:46 darrendraper-1 : Kevin, showing you as offline.
05:46 jgustin : Great job Sue
05:46 mrplough07 : my "student blog" is a set of Web 2.0 tools that I blog about and give kids to use as tools for their lessons, they dont comment
05:47 SarahStewart : lol!
05:47 kevinessdack : On now
05:47 cnelson : or like a garden that you tend
05:47 KimberlyMcClain : if blogging is like having a child, I am a neglectful parent
05:47 scmorgan : thanks all :)
05:47 cnelson : just like a garden it can get out of control, and may need weeding from time to time
05:47 SarahStewart : sue was my blog 'midwife'
05:47 dizne : just lurking + enjoying the conversation ... here's my sts blog: http://www.petrterrss.eq.edu.au/home/mcrid2/wordpress/
5:47 SarahStewart : lol!
05:47 kevinessdack : On now
05:47 cnelson : or like a garden that you tend
05:47 KimberlyMcClain : if blogging is like having a child, I am a neglectful parent
05:47 scmorgan : thanks all :)
05:47 cnelson : just like a garden it can get out of control, and may need weeding from time to time
05:47 SarahStewart : sue was my blog 'midwife'
05:47 dizne : just lurking + enjoying the conversation ... here's my sts blog: http://www.petrterrss.eq.edu.au/home/mcrid2/wordpress/
05:48 jgustin : @ scmorgan You're welcome come back
05:48 carbru123 : Please write a blog on this its a wonderful analogy - can imagine the pics you'd find
05:48 cnelson : its reflective which is cleansing for ones self too
05:48 cnelson : abd provides great affirmation
05:48 suewaters : yes
05:48 cnelson : yes
05:48 kgustin : yes
05:48 scmorgan : Just took a look at all the links--wonder if anyone has student blog--written by student? not teacher?
05:49 suewaters : if you read the comments on my blog you will find links to student blogs http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/2008/04/09/share-your-blogging-experience-tips-for-participants-from-open-pd/
05:49 tasteach : student blog http://lisawya67.edublogs.org
05:49 scmorgan : ah, I see student links onthe sidebar, too
05:49 SarahStewart : the ning 'better blog' community is good but have lost url
05:49 mrsdurff : Here's a post I wrote on writing a first-rate blog post http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html
05:49 scmorgan : on blogmeister
05:49 SarahStewart : the ning 'better blog' community is good but have lost url
05:49 mrsdurff : Here's a post I wrote on writing a first-rate blog post http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html
05:49 scmorgan : on blogmeister
05:50 cnelson : a new post isnt needed everyday
05:50 kevinessdack : Therapy
05:50 cnelson : mee too
05:50 suewaters : I try really hard to drive readers to other people's blog
05:50 mrsdurff : in the summer it is easier to do more often
05:50 carbru123 : Great therapy and quite cleansing
05:50 tasteach : you are great at that Sue
05:50 cnelson : but you cant be the reflective practice
05:50 SarahStewart : Linking is very good
05:50 scmorgan : When I wrote a running blog, I got lots of comments...not so much on my teaching blog
05:51 SarahStewart : Also, talk to other bloggers and leave comments on their blogs
05:51 suewaters : that is the way with blogging
05:51 scmorgan : Right, once you start the dialogue with others, it becomes a community
05:51 suewaters : very different audience
05:51 mrplough07 : My first blog title was called I NEED TO RANT, it wasnt for anyone other than me, then started worrying about work reading so changed title and redirected writing
05:51 suewaters : I have difference audience for my blogs and podcast
05:51 scmorgan : I've erased many times...before hitting "publish" !!
05:52 cnelson : here is ur blog Kevin?
05:52 suewaters : blog gave me a greater ability to reflect
05:52 jgustin : Purpose of a blog will affect participation. personal reflection seems to get more participation than professional blogs
05:53 cnelson : i was ranting over some lib statistics made public
05:53 mrsdurff : you are NOT reluctant
05:53 suewaters : @mrsdurff it is true I was well known as a podcaster once
05:53 kevinessdack : That is good thinking
05:53 suewaters : and hated blogging (don't tell anyone)
05:53 cnelson : my blog is my professional thoughts
05:53 mrplough07 : @cnelson - thtas how it is for me when reading @mrmosesdotorg blog, he is my AP and my Exec director reads it
05:53 kevinessdack : connected curriculum or exploration
05:53 mrsdurff : sue you are just well none period
05:53 suewaters : @mrsdurff it is true I was well known as a podcaster once
05:53 kevinessdack : That is good thinking
05:53 suewaters : and hated blogging (don't tell anyone)
05:53 cnelson : my blog is my professional thoughts
05:53 mrplough07 : @cnelson - thtas how it is for me when reading @mrmosesdotorg blog, he is my AP and my Exec director reads it
05:53 kevinessdack : connected curriculum or exploration
05:53 mrsdurff : sue you are just well none period
05:53 cnelson : too funny @mrpough
05:53 cnelson : plough
05:54 cnelson : my media coord reads my blog. I stand by my opinions
05:54 SarahStewart : my blog is mix of professional information & my personal learning that will be of interest to my midwifery students and midwives in general
05:54 mrplough07 : I need to figure out how to get an audience of commenters
05:54 suewaters : http://aquaculturepda.podomatic.com
05:54 carbru123 : When do you find the time to blog with small children Sue?
05:54 scmorgan : http://falconms.typepad.com/fatech/
05:54 tasteach : sorry I need to leave for work now so bye all and thanks for chat
05:54 mrsdurff : i liked the one with sheryl!
05:54 suewaters : @carbru123 early morning or late nights
05:55 cnelson : @mrplough comment on others--they will come over to yours and check u out
05:55 kevinessdack : http://web.mac.com/khoneycuttessdack/Kevin/Driving_Questions_Podcast/Driving_Questions_Podcast.html
05:55 jgustin : @tateach Thanks for coming and please come back
05:55 mrplough07 : @cnelson- Im doing better at that :)
05:55 kevinessdack : Blog: http://web.mac.com/khoneycuttessdack/Kevin/The_%22Rest%22_Area_Blog/The_%22Rest%22_Area_Blog.html
05:55 mrplough07 : http://nextsteped.blogspot.com/
05:55 scmorgan : I don't have as much time to listen...short commute...:)
05:55 mrsdurff : i have never been very interested in podcasting myself
05:55 cnelson : mr plugh lose the blogger and move over to edublogs
05:56 mrsdurff : i am intrigued by webcasting however
05:56 mrplough07 : I signed up for edublogs for my students for next sem.
05:56 cnelson : furff u r an overachiever
05:56 scmorgan : ah Kevin...I see Made to Stick on your blog. Great read!
05:56 cnelson : LOL
05:56 mrsdurff : you mean learner blogs?
05:56 suewaters : no more learner blogs
05:56 cnelson : for kids yeah
05:56 mrsdurff : thanks cathy but it is not true
05:56 carbru123 : Are Edublogs OK for the under 10's
05:56 jmaklary : @cnelson Why edublogs vs. blogger?
05:56 mrplough07 : @cnelson - wordpress or edublog?
05:56 gracekat : yes
05:57 cnelson : the feeds, the interface is better, widgets galore
05:57 gracekat : edublogeer great for under 10s
05:57 gracekat : no ads on edublogs
05:57 lauriev88 : anyone use 21classes for kid blogging?
05:57 cnelson : edublogs is just easy too and offers feeds for posts/comments
05:57 cnelson : blogger i thin is a wannabe
05:57 darrendraper-1 : Tip 1: short paragraphs
05:58 mrsdurff : cheeck
05:58 cnelson : oh i am SOOOOOO guilty of this
05:58 kevinessdack : Oh no, that's me! This is good advice.
05:58 greatnews : That's really great advice about headings and short paragraphs
05:58 mrplough07 : @ddraper - anyway to get a list of all the blogs posted on here today?
05:58 suewaters : please try Joe Dale again
05:58 cnelson : u caused Sue to drop out or go way down audiowise
05:59 cnelson : a HOOK
05:59 scmorgan : my colleague uses 21publish http://jclarkevans.21publish.com/
05:59 carbru123 : Thanks Sue, sorry about the Looooong paragraph on your blog tonite
05:59 kevinessdack : Bite sized ideas?
05:59 robinellis : I am saving the chat mrplough
05:59 darrendraper-1 : Tip 2: Grab attention right away. A hook.
05:59 robinellis : it will be posted on the wiki
05:59 darrendraper-1 : @mrplough07 We'll archive the chat.
05:59 mrsdurff : check
05:59 cnelson : pictuers are noce especially metaphirical
05:59 mrplough07 : yeah, but the chat is so long:)
05:59 scmorgan : Yep, Made to Stick...same points...
05:59 darrendraper-1 : Tip 3: A picture.
05:59 cnelson : nice
05:59 darrendraper-1 : Tip 4: Use headings.
05:59 mrsdurff : said that
05:59 kevinessdack : Nice!
05:59 darrendraper-1 : Tip 5: Finish with questions to encourage comments.
06:00 cnelson : questions that really invite comments
06:00 cnelson : YES!!!!
06:00 greatnews : @mrplough07-the chat is long, but the links will jump off the page
06:00 cnelson : I hate blogs in my readers that do that.
6:00 darrendraper-1 : Tip 6: Make sure your RSS feed is a full feed. Not partial.
06:00 mrsdurff : or qts to enrage into commenting
06:00 cnelson : School Library Journal WORST offender ever
06:00 kevinessdack : Good stuff
06:00 cnelson : yes
06:00 njtechteacher : That's were blogs lose me in the reader.
06:00 mrsdurff : good tip
06:01 darrendraper-1 : Tip 7: Subscribe to your own blog in your feed reader.
06:01 scmorgan : write like you talk, too
06:01 mrsdurff : comment on your own?
06:01 darrendraper-1 : Tip 8: Comment back on your own blog.
06:01 mrsdurff : oh i see
06:01 mrsdurff : carry on a conversation
06:01 cnelson : i do this 50/50 ill try to do better
06:01 kevinessdack : Be a conversational lubricant
06:02 suewaters : cool Jenny you can take over for me
06:02 SarahStewart : i have taken sue's advice over thr last 9 months and they do really work!
06:02 mrsdurff : that's your job Kevin
06:02 greatnews : Yes comment back--it's very disappointing to not get a response to your commments when you ask questions or try to get engaged in the conversation.
06:02 SarahStewart : @sue LOL!

06:02 greatnews : Those 8 tips were awesome!!!
06:03 mrplough07 : THANKS Everyone, gotta go get the baby
06:03 tlehmann : Yes! Thanks for the tips!
06:03 SarahStewart : gloves: http://tinyurl.com/59vp3n
06:03 suewaters : take the time to also comment on other people's blogs
06:03 darrendraper-1 : Great tips, Sue.
06:03 robinellis : bye mrplough07
06:03 cnelson : these are great tips Sue
06:03 suewaters : and use a comment tracking tools so you can comment back to your comments on those posts
06:03 suewaters : cocomment and co.mment
06:04 gracekat : Must go to work now. Thanks so much. Very glad I could listen in my time zone :)
06:04 cnelson : m using co.mment too
06:04 njtechteacher : I was glad you blogged about that recently, Sue.
06:04 suewaters : bye @Grace
06:04 cnelson : not sure im likeing it thogh
06:04 suewaters : co.mment is really good
06:04 mrsdurff : co-comment locked up my computer
06:04 njtechteacher : @cnelson It tends to hang my compuer
06:04 mrsdurff : i won't use it
06:04 suewaters : @njectteacher I assume the Edublogger
06:04 cnelson : ive had it misbehave for me too
06:05 njtechteacher : @sue I think so.
06:05 suewaters : cocomment has improved and let them know your problems and they will fix
06:05 mrsdurff : they had their chance
06:05 cnelson : i think with the last update i have had more success
06:05 greatnews : adding comments to other peoples' blogs is scary for beginners because they are afraid they will sound like dummies. Lurking a bit gives them more confidence to comment.
06:05 suewaters : Darren Joe is in call can he say hi
06:05 njtechteacher : @sue I have to try again and I will let them know. I saw another post where you said they were very responsive. 06:02 greatnews : Those 8 tips were awesome!!!
06:03 mrplough07 : THANKS Everyone, gotta go get the baby
06:03 tlehmann : Yes! Thanks for the tips!
06:03 SarahStewart : gloves: http://tinyurl.com/59vp3n
06:03 suewaters : take the time to also comment on other people's blogs
06:03 darrendraper-1 : Great tips, Sue.
06:03 robinellis : bye mrplough07
06:03 cnelson : these are great tips Sue
06:03 suewaters : and use a comment tracking tools so you can comment back to your comments on those posts
06:03 suewaters : cocomment and co.mment
06:04 gracekat : Must go to work now. Thanks so much. Very glad I could listen in my time zone :)
06:04 cnelson : m using co.mment too
06:04 njtechteacher : I was glad you blogged about that recently, Sue.
06:04 suewaters : bye @Grace
06:04 cnelson : not sure im likeing it thogh
06:04 suewaters : co.mment is really good
06:04 mrsdurff : co-comment locked up my computer
06:04 njtechteacher : @cnelson It tends to hang my compuer
06:04 mrsdurff : i won't use it
06:04 suewaters : @njectteacher I assume the Edublogger
06:04 cnelson : ive had it misbehave for me too
06:05 njtechteacher : @sue I think so.
06:05 suewaters : cocomment has improved and let them know your problems and they will fix
06:05 mrsdurff : they had their chance
06:05 cnelson : i think with the last update i have had more success
06:05 greatnews : adding comments to other peoples' blogs is scary for beginners because they are afraid they will sound like dummies. Lurking a bit gives them more confidence to comment.
06:05 suewaters : Darren Joe is in call can he say hi
06:05 mrsdurff : i am not afraid of sounding dumb because i am and proud of it
06:05 njtechteacher : @sue I have to try again and I will let them know. I saw another post where you said they were very responsive.
06:05 suewaters : @njtechteacher definitely responsive & now network with them :)
06:06 mrsdurff : Joe Dale?
06:06 darrendraper-1 : Yes. Welcome, Joe.
06:06 suewaters : yes
06:06 joedale : Hi everyone
06:06 suewaters : you introduced me to Joe Dale
06:06 mrsdurff : hey hi joe!
06:06 kevinessdack : Nice
06:06 suewaters : @durff
06:06 joedale : Hi Durff long time no hear
06:06 robinellis : Hi Joe
06:06 robinellis : welcome
06:06 joedale : Hi Robin
06:06 mrsdurff : at least i did sth of worth
06:06 suewaters : Hey @joedale thanks for last night
06:07 joedale : Flashmeeting? - You're welcome
06:07 cnelson : my begining was to start readig various blogs
06:07 cnelson : then get a reader
06:07 cnelson : then create my own
06:07 kevinessdack : The sculpture is inside the block of stone, you just removed the outer stone and released it.
06:07 suewaters : @jenny who is talking trying to get us to excercise more
06:07 greatnews : It really helps to reading lots of blogs to get a feeling for it before you start your own.
06:07 scmorgan : Great blog Joe...just discovered it!
06:07 kevinessdack : lol
06:07 joedale : Thanks
06:07 suewaters : @joedale gave them the link to your great blog
06:08 suewaters : John Connell rocks
06:08 joedale : www.joedale.typepad.com
06:08 suewaters : also
06:08 greatnews : Using RSS and aggregators really helped me to find blogs I loved to follow.
06:08 kgustin : Jamie, did ashley make it in? I don't see her on the chat.
06:08 scmorgan : Some days I think my reader will explode..so many good reads
06:08 mrsdurff : yes
06:08 cnelson : my last big preso was on using RSS
06:09 suewaters : Jenny is doing really well
06:09 jgustin : @ kgustin she was in earlier
06:09 greatnews : @cnelson-link for your RSS preso??
06:09 SarahStewart : timtams not as good as english 'penguins'
06:09 mrsdurff : stop typing
06:09 cnelson : rss preso http://tinyurl.com/2z2ckp
06:10 cnelson : of course target audience was school lib
06:10 darrendraper-1 : Joe's Tip 1: Be patient.
06:10 kgustin : lost the stream
06:10 suewaters : Sorry guys but I love the English accent
06:10 kgustin : ok its back
06:10 suewaters : Keep to the same theme
06:11 greatnews : @cnelson-thanks-can't wait to check it out
06:11 suewaters : Tip 2 Keep to the same theme
06:11 darrendraper-1 : Tip 2: Keep to the theme.
06:11 darrendraper-1 : Jinx.
06:11 suewaters : when you first start
06:11 kgustin : ok
06:11 darrendraper-1 : Tip 3: Nurture your readers.
06:11 robinellis : I agree this is a great point
06:11 SarahStewart : be aware of your audience-if you specialise, then you will only get a small audience
06:11 suewaters : Sense of community is really important
06:11 cnelson : when u get another started use yur networks, ask them to visit maybe comment
06:12 SarahStewart : eg i write for midwifery educators so only get small audience
06:12 suewaters : Jamie can you set homework that they read the comments and write their own comment back on the post?
06:13 mrsdurff : we've had over 4,000 in 1.5 years
06:13 jgustin : That works
06:13 SarahStewart : but...its also great to visit blogs of people who are in completely different field
06:13 suewaters : can homework be to ask questions here http://aquaculturepda.edublogs.org/2008/04/09/share-your-blogging-experience-tips-for-participants-from-open-pd/ of the commenters or write their own post to bring their thoughts if already blogging
06:13 suewaters : thanks Joe
06:13 kgustin : Thank you Joe
06:14 joedale : www.joedale.typepad.com
06:14 SarahStewart : thats cos us brits talk 'proper'
06:14 kgustin : I agree sue
06:15 kevinessdack : This was fun!
06:15 carbru123 : Thanks Sue but I sound just like Joe!!
06:15 suewaters : sorry I will be away next week
06:15 kgustin : No still here
06:15 mrsdurff : i do agree with sue about south african acents
06:15 SarahStewart : great to meet u all
06:15 scmorgan : thanks robin and darren...sue and all
06:16 scmorgan : you too sue:)
06:16 mrsdurff : i do tell learners that
06:16 SarahStewart : cheers robin
06:16 darrendraper-1 : Sarah, we'll archive all of this on the OpenPD wiki.
06:16 robinellis : http://openpd.wikispaces.com
06:16 suewaters : @carbru123 Sarah would love ruby tour
06:16 mrsdurff : making connections for them that way
06:16 mrsdurff : '
06:16 njtechteacher : So glad I was finally able to be on the computer during your class. It's excellent.
06:16 eyore15 : what was that youtube wikipedia address?
06:16 robinellis : Thanks njtechteacher happy you made it
06:16 suewaters : shame the Edublogger is forced to go on holidays
06:16 scmorgan : :)
06:16 KimberlyMcClain : here's mine: www.terribleteacher.blogspot.com
06:17 suewaters : I think you can only be one person online
06:17 carbru123 : Any time Sue and Ruby - Cape Town is beautiful wine is great
06:17 robinellis : @suewaters you will catch up the following week
06:17 cnelson : WOOT
06:17 scmorgan : here's my very first one from 2004 http://falcon.typepad.com/journalism/2004/05/index.html
06:17 suewaters : I thought last week was it
06:17 suewaters : Contact me if you have any problems with Edublogs
06:17 carbru123 : Any time Sue and Ruby - Cape Town is beautiful wine is great
06:17 robinellis : @suewaters you will catch up the following week
06:17 cnelson : WOOT
06:17 scmorgan : here's my very first one from 2004 http://falcon.typepad.com/journalism/2004/05/index.html
06:17 suewaters : I thought last week was it
06:17 suewaters : Contact me if you have any problems with Edublogs
06:17 suewaters : but before Sunday
06:17 SarahStewart : bye for now. cheers everyone
06:17 suewaters : make sure you get manuals from the Edublogger page
06:18 scmorgan : Darren I was able to download flv from ustream
06:18 suewaters : Manuals and getting started with Edublogs located here http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/getting-started-with-edublogs/
06:19 kgustin : Thanks everyone!
06:19 cnelson : Great discussion this afternoon
06:19 suewaters : thanks Darren, Robin and Jamie
06:19 kevinessdack : Bye!
06:19 mrsdurff : see you all!
06:19 kevinessdack : : )
06:19 carbru123 : Thank you all so much - I will see you all next week
06:19 joedale : Cheers
with Edublogs
06:17 suewaters : but before Sunday
06:17 SarahStewart : bye for now. cheers everyone
06:17 suewaters : make sure you get manuals from the Edublogger page
06:18 scmorgan : Darren I was able to download flv from ustream
06:18 suewaters : Manuals and getting started with Edublogs located here http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/getting-started-with-edublogs/
06:19 kgustin : Thanks everyone!
06:19 cnelson : Great discussion this afternoon
06:19 suewaters : thanks Darren, Robin and Jamie
06:19 kevinessdack : Bye!
06:19 mrsdurff : see you all!
06:19 kevinessdack : : )
06:19 carbru123 : Thank you all so much - I will see you all next week
06:19 joedale : Cheers
06:19 njtechteacher : Bye.
06:19 greatnews : Tons of new links to explore! Thanks!
06:19 cnelson : Shes assleep
06:19 mrsdurff : zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:19 cnelson : bye all
06:20 darrendraper : Bye all! This was great!
06:22 robinellis : Sue and Joe thanks so much it was great having you both and your suggestions were terrific
06:22 joedale : You're welcome