01:49 kgustin : can hear jamie
01:50 kgustin : got her now
01:50 kgustin : viscisous loop
01:51 mrplough07 : ouch!
01:51 kgustin : thank you
01:52 kgustin : vicious
01:52 kgustin : i can spell, just can't type
01:52 mrplough07 : sounds good from here, in here, on here
01:53 openpd : Thanks, I was getting some feedback
01:55 kgustin : @jamie - ash said she had to tutor, will look at archive later.
04:56 JamieGustin : Ok
04:58 kgustin : Yikes
04:58 iwhite : hello Kerrie
04:58 darrendraper : 15 minutes to reboot? Ouch!
04:59 kgustin : sore spot!
05:00 kgustin : this is interesting!
05:04 mrplough07 : I cant, no Skype at school, sorry would love to
05:04 kgustin : I'm totally lost, not much to share
05:04 kgustin : I can if you want me though
05:04 suewaters : Hi
05:04 kgustin : Kerrie Gustin, 2nd grade, Magnolia, Texas
05:05 kgustin : Hi Sue!
05:05 robinellis : Hi Sue happy morning :)
05:05 mrplough07 : Las Vegas, Odyssey Charter Schools, role is becoming universal, but teaching right now
05:05 kgustin : Thanks for sharing your vacation!
05:05 suewaters : Please guys contain your happiness
05:05 kgustin : grumpy?
05:05 mrsdurff : is there sound?
05:05 suewaters : I need to put on my sunglasses it's that early
05:05 darrendraper : Hi Sue. Glad you could make it! Heard you had a short night.
05:05 chriswherley : williamsville, il k-12 around 1400 students. Tech Coordinator
05:05 darrendraper : Yep. Sound works.
05:05 kgustin : poor Sue.
05:06 darrendraper : I'm in Salt Lake City, UT. Curriculum technology specialist.
05:06 suewaters : yes apparently I got less than 3 hours sleep
05:06 mrsdurff : ok refresh time
05:06 darrendraper : Those bloggers can be very dedicated.
05:06 JamieGustin : @durff it has been working
05:06 kgustin : I feel for you, that was me yesterday Sue
05:07 robinellis : Quakertown PA Instructional Tech Spec
05:08 JamieGustin : Magnolia, TX Elementary technology coach
05:08 mrplough07 : only 17 minutes left on skype download, love our wireless here
05:08 robinellis : Sue do you want to come into the call?
05:08 suewaters : Perth Western Australia
05:08 suewaters : Sure
05:08 tlehmann : tammy lehmann, magnolia
05:09 kgustin : Loved Darrens Falling From the Tree post
05:09 jmaklary : Hi everybody, I'm late as usual
05:09 mrplough07 : I discovered that PLUGINS hard to use
05:09 mrsdurff : I wrote this for hw http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/literacy.html
05:09 suewaters : hi John
05:09 robinellis : Hi John happy to have you
05:09 jmaklary : Hi Sue, Hi Robin
05:09 suewaters : Which plugins?
05:10 mrsdurff : i went to the RSS to find sth that resonated
05:11 darrendraper : A+
05:11 mrsdurff : ty
05:11 mrplough07 : hah
05:11 suewaters : I think @Darren forgot to give me homework
05:11 mrplough07 : oh sure
05:11 cheryloakes : Can I audit this class, on vacation and here at the right time finally.
05:11 mrsdurff : define plugins
05:11 mrplough07 : wish edublogs had instructions to go with plugin
05:11 kgustin : I think I'm just code challenged
05:11 suewaters : which plugins exactly MrPlough?
05:12 suewaters : then I can follow up
05:12 mrsdurff : Amen
05:12 mrplough07 : hold on, pulling up @suewaters
05:12 mrsdurff : Amen twice
05:12 mrsdurff : i get an A!
05:12 mrsdurff : but they can be brilliant too
05:12 kgustin : The Edublogger has great manuals that I have been living with to try to figure things out.
05:12 mrmosesdotorg : Not sure how it works with edublogs but many of the plugins with WordPress plugins require close reading of the "readme.txt" files..
05:12 suewaters : I think we do have
05:13 mrmosesdotorg : and then sometimes they still have trouble wokring
05:13 mrsdurff : yes!
05:13 mrplough07 : the 'subscribe to comments' plugin is activated but not sure how to get it on page
05:13 cheryloakes : Durff, nice post. We have MARVEL in Maine and it is a compilation of many databases, trying to get teachers to use it more.
05:13 mrplough07 : @mrmosesdotorg - no text file for edublogs cuz not uploadable
05:13 suewaters : The subscribe to comments is for your readers from memory but I will get back to you
05:14 mrsdurff : oh hi cheryl
05:14 kgustin : go ahead and Skype me in
05:14 suewaters : thanks for telling me you want to know more about plugins
05:14 kgustin : i fixed it today
05:14 mrplough07 : edublogs needs 'simple tags' plugin for Technorati Tags
05:14 suewaters : will check that the changes to the platform before I write about plugins
05:14 kgustin : i fixed it today
05:14 mrplough07 : edublogs needs 'simple tags' plugin for Technorati Tags
05:14 suewaters : will check that the changes to the platform before I write about plugins
05:14 suewaters : forget technorati tags
05:14 cheryloakes : Hi Durff
05:14 suewaters : :)
05:14 mrplough07 : @suewaters haha
05:14 mrplough07 : I read that on your blog
05:15 mrmosesdotorg : Again, not sure if the plugin for EduBlogs for video comments is there, but I just put that one in and I had a nice back and forth with someone:
05:15 suewaters : honestly you don't need the tags and I will promise to write why
05:15 darrendraper : http://tinyurl.com/6zmgtl
05:15 mrmosesdotorg : http://mrmoses.org/?p=289
05:15 mrsdurff : tag generator http://hitchhikr.com/make_tags.php
05:15 suewaters : sorry no video comments but leave a comment in the Edublogs forum and maybe they will consider
05:16 mrsdurff : not everyone understands that
05:16 jmaklary : Mine are ALWays profound! You guys just don't get it!!! ;-)
05:16 mrmosesdotorg : @ddraper - Orin?
05:16 mrsdurff : esp people outside the 'echo chamber'
05:16 mrsdurff : not sure why
05:16 tlehmann : finally in- computers?
05:16 mrsdurff : @maklary LOL
05:17 jmaklary : @durff - why are you laughing?
05:17 mrsdurff : a lot
05:17 jmaklary : @durff - why are you laughing?
05:17 mrsdurff : a lot
05:17 mrsdurff : you claim to be always profound
05:17 mrsdurff : no one is
05:17 suewaters : Jon Becker?
05:17 jmaklary : in my wildest dreams!
05:17 kgustin : I was astounded when I got comments on my first post. Thanks guys!
05:17 mrsdurff : then you are more wild than I
05:18 darrendraper : No, it wasn't Orrin Hatch. He's a definite black eye to Utah's representation. IMHO.
05:18 jmaklary : actually, I don't blog enough at all...
05:18 mrsdurff : be nice
05:18 mrmosesdotorg : @darren - ha
05:18 kgustin : I like the map widget. I know more are reading than commenting
05:19 suewaters : you have to make time to comment :)
05:19 darrendraper : http://kgustin.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/why-am-i-doing-this-and-how-is-it-good-for-these-kids/
05:19 mrmosesdotorg : If comments are happening, perhaps putting in a Cluster Map or using Google Analytics would help to let you know that people are checking it out
05:19 kgustin : thank you
05:19 mrmosesdotorg : *are not
05:19 suewaters : he writes well
05:20 suewaters : it helps that he is a good writer
05:20 joedale : Hi everyone
05:20 darrendraper : Hi Joe.
05:20 robinellis : Hi Joe thanks for coming
05:20 kgustin : Hi Joe
05:21 mrsdurff : First Rate Blog Post http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html
05:21 joedale : It's 10.20 p.m here.
05:21 darrendraper : Anybody else wanna jump into the call?
05:21 mrsdurff : hi Joe!
05:21 suewaters : lazy Joe :)
05:21 joedale : :)
05:21 darrendraper : Git 'er done!
05:23 mrmosesdotorg : Darrens last two posts have been great
05:23 jmaklary : anyone get a look at Stephanie Sandifer's latest post/rant?
05:23 darrendraper : http://tinyurl.com/5gthjq
05:23 kgustin : @mrmoses - I agree!
05:23 robinellis : Yes John I did
05:23 mrsdurff : @maklary no, tell us
05:23 mrsdurff : he IS kidding
05:24 suewaters : don't tell me Rick?
05:24 mrsdurff : set theory is 2nd grade
05:24 jmaklary : I'll grab the link...
05:24 jmaklary : http://www.ed421.com/?p=453
05:25 mrsdurff : which is thwe entire pt - yes robin
05:25 suewaters : that is about Ecology
05:25 suewaters : and ecosystems
05:25 kgustin : I see a lot of buzz about blog etiquette - is there a guide somewhere?
05:25 suewaters : go for it Joe
05:25 mrsdurff : yes sue but applied to other areas
05:25 suewaters : maybe a bit tired and cold
05:26 mrsdurff : @kgustin yes http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html
05:26 kgustin : @durff - thanks
05:26 mrsdurff : we all find that Joe
05:27 mrsdurff : btw there are 50 viewers
05:27 mrmosesdotorg : I don't know if anyone else is using Google Reader, but here's the post's I've shared recently http://www.google.com/reader/shared/09543714457139376540
05:27 mrmosesdotorg : those are the ones that have had the most impact on me
05:28 suewaters : found one finally
05:28 suewaters : http://www.johnconnell.co.uk/blog/?p=788#comment-56916
05:28 darrendraper : Great posts, Glenn.
05:28 JamieGustin-5760 : @ mrmosesWe are going to discuss Google reader could you discuss that in the chat?
05:28 suewaters : I use Google Reader
05:28 robinellis : Glenn do you want to come into the call to talk about what you shared in your reader?
05:28 tlehmann : kerrie, sharing one computer - interesting?
05:29 kgustin : @tammy - what happened to the other one?
05:29 mrmosesdotorg : I'd love to, but flying solo today
05:29 mrmosesdotorg : let's see how things are going when you get to the RSS part
05:29 tlehmann : one has sound. one let's us chat. can't connect on both
05:29 tlehmann : it's working. hearing everything!
05:29 suewaters : http://www.johnconnell.co.uk/blog/?p=788#comment-56916
05:30 mrsdurff : @maklary thanks
05:30 kgustin : whatever works :)
05:30 robinellis : Ok Glenn
05:30 mrsdurff : yes!
05:30 kgustin : yes!
05:31 tlehmann : getting lots of posts to look at - THANKS
05:31 darrendraper : I'm ready for a holiday. :)
05:31 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2007/11/welcome-to-gors.html
05:31 mrmosesdotorg : oh, I've had that photo problem
05:32 mrmosesdotorg : I used to be less careful
05:32 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2008/03/from-gorseville.html
05:32 suewaters : http://www.rashundatramble.com/2008/04/19/folks-using-my-pics-without-credit-ive-absolutely-had-it/
05:32 mrsdurff : i think it is personally silly
05:32 mrmosesdotorg : me too
05:32 joedale : http://uk.youtube.com/user/gorseygorsey
05:32 mrsdurff : please use anything of mine anytime without acknowledgiomg me whatsoever thankyou!
05:32 suewaters : http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
05:33 mrplough07 : absolutley Sue!

05:32 suewaters : http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
05:33 mrplough07 : absolutley Sue!
05:34 suewaters : KFC no good for you
05:35 mrsdurff : KFC=Kentucky Fried Chicken?
05:35 suewaters : yes
05:35 suewaters : that is what it's called
05:35 mrsdurff : :)
05:36 kgustin : @ Sue The best things around are no good for you
05:36 suewaters : true but u should be feeding him better ROFL
05:36 kgustin : he does the cooking at our house
05:37 suewaters : :)
05:37 suewaters : copyright does me head in
05:38 kgustin : huge issue with our teachers too
05:38 suewaters : creative commons raises even more issues
05:38 mrmosesdotorg : how so, sue?
05:38 tlehmann : yes. iwhite & tlehmann use our own pics
05:38 kgustin : i use most of my own pics too
05:39 suewaters : because you need to understand there are so many types of creative commons and not all photos on Flickr are okay to us
05:39 kgustin : Durff sent a link to one of her posts
05:40 jmaklary : Is cross-linking simply creating a link to a referenced blog post? Or is it technically something else?
05:41 mrsdurff : GO!
05:41 mrsdurff : hum the jeopardy song
05:41 suewaters : no she hasn't written on blog etiquette
05:41 joedale : Can't you use Flickr Storm to find photos you can use?
05:41 kgustin : im humming
05:41 suewaters : sure but Johns give the attribution for you
05:42 suewaters : that covers you completely
05:42 jmaklary : so a linked picture wouldn't work for attribution
05:42 jmaklary : needs to be more explicit
05:43 kgustin : Explain the license thing please
05:43 darrendraper : Yes, Flickr Storm will also give you the citation as well.
05:43 robinellis : http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2008/02/blogging-tips-authenticity-transparency.html
05:43 kgustin : Jamie was asking for suggestions for the next session
05:43 kgustin : Yea Robin!
05:44 suewaters : http://www.skelliewag.org/a-complete-guide-to-finding-and-using-incredible-flickr-images-162.htm
05:44 kgustin : thanks Sue
05:45 jmaklary : http://www.zoo-m.com/flickr-storm/
05:45 darrendraper : Another Flickr photo finder that I really like: http://compfight.com/
05:45 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2008/04/tumblr-kwout-tu.html
05:46 suewaters : this is a better search for Flickr Creative commons http://flickrcc.bluemountains.net/
05:47 joedale : http://joedale.tumblr.com/
05:47 Dramagirl : Photo Dropper and Zemanta are good for WP blogs.
05:48 suewaters : yes I wish we had photo dropper on Edublogs
05:48 cam0blam0 : whats this show about
05:48 robinellis : http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2006/03/ten-habits-of-bloggers-that-win.html
05:48 suewaters : Hi dramagirl
05:48 kgustin : Must use caution when doing student blogs, linking to other places
05:48 Dramagirl : Hey Sue.
05:48 suewaters : I went to bed late :) and Frances was also bad
05:48 darrendraper : http://kwout.com/
05:48 kgustin : that is why i try to stick with my own photography when possible
05:49 suewaters : that is why many bloggers take a camera out with them
05:49 Dramagirl : Anyone used the new plug-in which allows video comment on WP blogs.
05:49 darrendraper : That's why I just take a photo of the screen. :)
05:49 kgustin : my camera is attached to me pretty much at all times
05:49 suewaters : also I had a reader let me know that Flickr is being stripped from my posts due to blocking of Flickr by school districts
05:49 tlehmann : me too
05:50 Dramagirl : My iPhone camera has helped me out countless times.
05:50 mrsdurff : i'm still of a younger opinion that if it is posted on the internet is should be available and the arguments to the contrary are archaic. At the same time, I teach all learners to cite sources to the best of their ability. I guess I'm a contradiction in terms
05:50 suewaters : Well if we have taken the time to create we should be acknowledged for our work
05:50 mrsdurff : i'm still of a younger opinion that if it is posted on the internet is should be available and the arguments to the contrary are archaic. At the same time, I teach all learners to cite sources to the best of their ability. I guess I'm a contradiction in terms
05:50 suewaters : Well if we have taken the time to create we should be acknowledged for our work
05:50 kgustin : @ sue - I agree, I certainly would like to have credit for my photos
05:51 mrsdurff : if one has taken the time to post one is asking others to use it
05:51 Dramagirl : I have no problem with sharing. I like the whole spirit of open source and sharing, but I want acknowledgment for creativity.
05:51 kgustin : NetTrekker is great, but subscription
05:51 suewaters : I have less problems with my photos and get more angry when people copy all my words or my websites
05:51 Dramagirl : And not make money out of my efforts. Stealing, not to put too fine a point on it.
05:51 kgustin : not that doesn't have external links
05:51 jmaklary : MINTS ethemes is REALLY good
05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto
05:52 Dramagirl : Love iStockphoto
05:52 jmaklary : Mints that is
05:52 mrsdurff : there was yotophoto
05:52 mrsdurff : picasa
05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto is better
05:52 jmaklary : http://www.emints.org/ethemes/
05:52 cchausis : Hi all... sorry to pop in so late
05:52 cchausis : Wow... you guys are on the "main" Ustream page!
05:53 njtechteacher : http://www.pictures4schools.com/ Haven't used yet, but found it recently
05:53 suewaters : well that is cool
05:53 mrsdurff : notoriety
05:53 suewaters : not a problem
05:53 kgustin : yotophoto went to lifehacker.com
05:53 mrsdurff : is that what happened?
05:53 njtechteacher : You're right K-8 I still worry about some what I've seen on Flickr
05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto is better
05:52 jmaklary : http://www.emints.org/ethemes/
05:52 cchausis : Hi all... sorry to pop in so late
05:52 cchausis : Wow... you guys are on the "main" Ustream page!
05:53 njtechteacher : http://www.pictures4schools.com/ Haven't used yet, but found it recently
05:53 suewaters : well that is cool
05:53 mrsdurff : notoriety
05:53 suewaters : not a problem
05:53 kgustin : yotophoto went to lifehacker.com
05:53 mrsdurff : is that what happened?
05:53 njtechteacher : You're right K-8 I still worry about some what I've seen on Flickr
05:54 kgustin : just went there
05:54 suewaters : I notice that John Johnson grabs the pics for his students so that they can search for them from safe photos
05:54 cchausis : has anyone mentioned http://pics4learning.com?
05:54 mrsdurff : i don't use Flickr is school
05:54 suewaters : my kangaroos
05:54 mrsdurff : Flickr censores content in Germany
05:54 kgustin : we use flickr stream for our school homepage photostreams
05:55 cchausis : Darren is a star!
05:55 mrsdurff : without their knowledge
05:55 cchausis : But he is also high school
05:55 suewaters : that is a good idea from flickr storm
05:55 njtechteacher : THen the whole class share the same tray?
05:55 njtechteacher : Nice
05:55 suewaters : does it block the flickr storm URL?
05:56 suewaters : so the photos are stripped?
05:56 mrsdurff : but the point is for them to find the images, isn't it?
05:56 suewaters : true
05:56 joedale : Flickr is not blocked in our school
05:56 suewaters : Durff
05:56 mrsdurff : we have the same Jami
05:57 mrsdurff : there is Schooltube
05:57 suewaters : I'm glad you have all been Sue Waters and it looks like we missed RSS :)
05:57 mrsdurff : Teachertube
05:57 mrsdurff : Godtube
05:57 mrplough07 : bye y'all, gotta run
05:57 mrsdurff : and you can convert and upload elsewhere like Vimeo
05:57 robinellis : bye mrplough07
05:57 darrendraper : TeacherTube is fantastic. But it was MUCH better before they added all of the advertisements. :(
05:57 Dramagirl : Not the same blocking issues in Higher Ed at all. Feel for colleagues K-12. Sounds as though you are finding great work arounds though.
05:58 mrmosesdotorg : bye, cory
05:58 suewaters : bye Cory
05:58 darrendraper : My Cory.
05:58 jmaklary : TeacherTube = Very Slow, painfully slow
05:58 darrendraper : Woops. :) Bye Cory.
05:58 mrsdurff : filters do teach - how to work around
05:58 mrmosesdotorg : I guess he can be your Cory :)
05:58 suewaters : and Teachertube can be hard to embed
05:58 mrsdurff : teaches the kids very well
05:58 jmaklary : I'll check it out again.
05:58 mrsdurff : Schooltube
05:59 Dramagirl : @mrsdurff ... and teaching them about control too!
05:59 kgustin : YouTube still has better content, just because of the larger community
05:59 cchausis : thanks for Schooltube.com... hadn't seen that one yet
05:59 cchausis : also... Google videos?
05:59 mrsdurff : how to use proxies
05:59 suewaters : Google is often blocked
05:59 mrsdurff : and U3 flashdrives
05:59 Dramagirl : Gotta run! Great PD folks. Catch you next time.
05:59 mrsdurff : yes
05:59 suewaters : see you Kate
06:00 suewaters : Sue did it again
06:00 mrsdurff : ah sue
06:00 mrsdurff : we love you
06:00 kgustin : Great discussion though
06:00 cchausis : thanks for having us!
06:00 mrmosesdotorg : thanks for putting this on
06:00 joedale : Cheers guys
06:00 mrsdurff : ew worms
06:00 kgustin : We love you Sue
06:00 njtechteacher : Good night - thanks again.
06:00 inpi-1 : Thank you
06:00 robinellis : bye Ann
06:00 tlehmann : great discussion - lots of ideas
06:01 kgustin : Yea Joe!
06:01 tlehmann : Yes!
06:01 mrsdurff : he wants out of work
06:01 cchausis : are you archiving the chat on the wiki?
06:01 natmanderson : bye
06:01 kgustin : Thanks everyone this has been great!
06:01 KimberlyMcClain : bye
06:01 jmaklary : good job guys/gals - Jamie, send tech specs of session please..whenever convenient
06:01 hockeymom1788 : Thanks everyone for the great links.
06:01 kgustin : I need help with RSS so come back
06:01 mrmosesdotorg : Great job, OpenPD crew. This project rocks, everso hard.
06:01 mrsdurff : url?
06:01 kgustin : Yes, thanks Sue
06:02 robinellis : Thanks Glenn always good to have you in the sessions
06:02 mrsdurff : yes sir
06:02 mrsdurff : go sue
06:02 kgustin : Go Edublogger,Go!
06:02 mrsdurff : i 2nd the motion
06:02 suewaters : http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/03/29/how-i-use-rss-to-make-my-life-easier/
06:02 suewaters : http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/03/28/are-you-making-your-life-easier-by-using-rss/
06:02 kgustin : I like that rule
06:03 kgustin : That is a good idea!
06:03 mrsdurff : RSS=Really Serious Stressrelief
06:03 kgustin : I don't know about that.
06:03 jmaklary : Jamie, you submitting a TCEA preso, due on May 2
06:03 jmaklary : ??
06:03 JamieGustin-5760 : I want to submit open PD
06:04 JamieGustin-5760 : something on Open PD
06:04 jmaklary : Hmmm, sounds interesting, if you want a cohort, lemme know