Session+Chat

11:54 darrendraper : Any of you fine folks wanna join the skype call? 02:55 hockeymom-9246 : Hi, I'll be in and out during this session, in a minute I have to do do the dreaded dissmissal duty. 02:56 robinellis : Ok Nedra that is fine 02:56 jgustin : I am not getting any video Darren is it going? 02:57 darrendraper-1 : Not yet. Video's coming soon. 02:57 darrendraper-1 : Kristin's running the stream today. :) 02:57 jgustin : I don't know if I have anything to contribute but I'll join the Skype call if there is room. 02:57 robinellis : ok Jamie 02:57 mrplough07 : hello from vegas and odyssey charter schools 02:57 jgustin : I don't want to cut out someone else who may know more 02:59 mrplough07 : guess I should set up Skype on my work desktop, would love to participate 02:59 chriswherley : streaming now? yes 02:59 kajigga : I think so. 03:03 robinellis : Kevin I just sent you my contact information for skype to add you to the call 03:03 lindseybp : I've been using diigo since fall 07 03:03 mrmosesdotorg : yes, delicious and zotero 03:04 lindseybp : And del.icio.us since last year 03:04 chriswherley : since nov. delicious, 2weeks with diigo 03:04 lindseybp : Oh and zotero, too 03:04 jgustin : I have used delicious and a local open source solution called scuttle 03:04 chriswherley : tech coordinator from IL 03:04 kajigga : del.ico.us all the time 03:04 darrendraper-1 : I've used delicious for a while now. 03:05 kajigga : linkedin 03:05 kajigga : twitter all the time 03:06 mrplough07-1 : ustream feed on openpd site did not work, had to come straight to Ustream.com 03:06 chriswherley : sounds good 03:07 mrplough07-1 : edcho, duplicating voices 03:07 chriswherley : ie7 and ff and flock toolbar works windows xp 03:08 darrendraper-1 : @mrplough07 Weird and sorry to hear that. Glad you made it here, though. We'll have to put a direct link to this channel on the Get Connected page. 03:10 mrplough07-1 : audio good now 03:12 rmack1272 : what is the presenters account on diigo? 03:12 rmack1272 : would like to look at it 03:12 robinellis : Kristen is logged into her own account @rmack1272 03:13 briancsmith : Hiya folks 03:13 robinellis : Hi Brian 03:13 rmack1272 : what is screen? looking for frineds to follow 03:13 rmack1272 : friends 03:13 mrplough07-1 : http://www.diigo.com/profile/khokanson 03:13 rmack1272 : ty 03:13 robinellis : You are able to add friends to your account 03:15 darrendraper-1 : RSS - So cool. 03:15 kajigga : ditto that! 03:15 rmack1272 : lost audio on RSS 03:16 robinellis : mine went out and is back at that time as well rmack1272 03:17 mrplough07-1 : that article was amazing 03:18 rmack1272 : already have many highlights on pages I visit 03:18 rmack1272 : were they highlighted by others in group? 03:19 mrplough07-1 : some users highlight and save it with diigo community 03:19 robinellis : Yes @rmack1272 03:19 mrplough07-1 : then anyone with diigo account can see 03:19 rmack1272 : wow 03:19 briancsmith : is that strictly for group members or friends? 03:19 robinellis : yes members of a group if shared with the group @briansmith 03:20 mrplough07-1 : you can make highlights private which is for you and who you give the annotated url too 03:20 mrplough07-1 : if switch to groups only members in that group can see 03:20 mrplough07-1 : if save to diigo community then all diigo users can see 03:20 rmack1272 : what about comments? How are they attached? 03:20 mrplough07-1 : as sticky notes, little boxes pop up 03:20 rmack1272 : ty mrplough07-1 03:20 mrplough07-1 : np 03:21 rmack1272 : only to groups also? 03:22 mrplough07-1 : @rmack - yes the comments pop up to whoever you share the page with 03:23 mrplough07-1 : http://youtube.com/watch?v=0RvAkTuL02A 03:23 mrplough07-1 : diigo v3 03:24 briancsmith : Are we creating a new divide with the speed of these tools? Most teahcers are still not ready to dive into blogs & wiki's. 03:24 VanishingPoint : hey all ... dying here :( 03:25 mrplough07-1 : why dying? 03:25 VanishingPoint : very very ill... hit me by noon yest and been down hill since then 03:26 darrendraper-1 : Don't die, Vanishing Point. I'm battling a little cold here too - Dr. said it was bronchitis. :( 03:26 mrplough07-1 : my son has rsv which has bronchitis attributes, definitely going around, sorry vp 03:26 jgustin : @ Brian That is a concern. I think that some things like social bookmarking may strike a chord in a teacher that other tools don't 03:27 jgustin : particularly in districts that lock down computers more than othres 03:27 briancsmith : @jgustin I agree, but Diigo had me stumped at first glance. 03:27 darrendraper-1 : Great question, Brian. I know I can't keep up with it all - and I used to think I was good at keeping up. 03:27 darrendraper-1 : :) 03:27 VanishingPoint : been avoiding the Dr :( battled the "little cold" all last week on spring break... went back yest, and poof yuckville 03:27 mrplough07-1 : @brian isnt that gap unavoidable, between people who are learning new edtech tools and people who arent 03:27 jgustin : For the teacher new to web 2.0 a simpler site might be in order 03:28 darrendraper-1 : Video that explains Diigo in a quick 3 minute nutshell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RvAkTuL02A 03:28 jgustin : How ever some of the social group tools in Diigo are pretty interesting 03:28 rmack1272 : @Brian--I think this is easier then when I had to teache people shared network spaces--which they still don't get 03:29 mrsdurff : Durff is here 03:29 VanishingPoint : I am going to show Diigo to teachers but start just with the bookmarking ... Diigo can be overwhelming... 03:29 briancsmith : @drapper I'm interested in learning what you meant by research and the sidebar. 03:29 rmack1272 : @vanish good point 03:29 VanishingPoint : then into the highlighting... 03:29 VanishingPoint : from there I will go into the social parts. 03:30 briancsmith : I'm not opposed to Diigo, but there's a lot here for a noob to take in. I'm thinking Del.icio.us is Diigo on training wheels 03:30 darrendraper-1 : Well, when I'm in "research mode", mentally, I love having the Diigo sidebar open. That way I can see what other folks are saying about pages, what they've annotated, etc. 03:30 scottmerrick : hey all--recording this pronunciation for @julenr :) 03:30 jgustin : @ vanish you bring up a good point, why show them everything when too much might cause them to choke 03:30 mrplough07-1 : @ brian, very true 03:30 VanishingPoint : Then only thing I don't like about being able to be dragged into the conversations is you do not have a choice... got up yesterday and was involved in 11 convos I wasn't aware of... 03:30 scottmerrick : hope this is archived! ;) 03:30 jgustin : @scott Kristin is recording it and we will archive it here 03:31 darrendraper-1 : @vanishingpoint I'm with you on that. I don't like being dragged into a conversation. I also don't like all of the email it sends you. 03:31 robinellis : Yes Scott it will be 03:31 mrsdurff : so vanishingpoint who are you so we can talk about you? 03:31 mrplough07-1 : @dd- another beta prob, I adjusted my email settings now dont get any from them 03:31 mrsdurff : let's all drag darren into every convo 03:31 mrplough07-1 : even though chose to get updated regularly 03:31 darrendraper-1 : I fixed the email problem though. I told Diigo that my email address was Shareski's email address. Now he gets my Diigo spam. :) 03:31 VanishingPoint : @mrsdurff Scott Weidig TC in Illinois. http://vanishingpoint.edublogs.org 03:31 briancsmith : @VanishingPoint Yeah, that concerns me... is there a way to moderate/toggle the new conversations? 03:32 darrendraper-1 : Juuuuuuust kidding. 03:32 mrsdurff : well hi scott 03:32 metaweb : digo diigo ... hola 03:32 VanishingPoint : @briancsmith you can "prevent" email messaging ut not being dragged into convos. 03:32 VanishingPoint : Hi @mrsdurff :) 03:33 scottmerrick : howdy MsD :) 03:33 mrsdurff : can i download delicious to diigo? 03:33 briancsmith : @mrsdurff yes 03:33 mrsdurff : cool - msybr this weekend 03:33 mrsdurff : maybe 03:33 mrsdurff : amen to that 03:34 VanishingPoint : @mrsdurff go to tools in Diigo, and look at import to import, and look at save elsewhere to like your Diigo to your delicious acct to cross post 03:34 mrsdurff : i would likee that 03:34 robinellis : Brian is this what you were referring to earlier? 03:34 mrsdurff : i can't type 03:34 metaweb : I am here to find out why I should use Diigo and perhaps not delicious 03:34 mrsdurff : third grade was in rare form 03:35 rmack1272 : @metaweb diigo much more robust 03:35 mrsdurff : i want to use both quickly and effectively 03:35 briancsmith : I wondering if there is a way to not get into all the conversations regarding all the sites I visit. 03:35 metaweb : robust is what way? 03:35 VanishingPoint : @jgustin my teachers get easily overwhelmed... so this way I can to 15-20 min quick hit sessions building on ONE tool, not 3 different tools. 03:35 rmack1272 : much more there 03:35 mrsdurff : can't you just delete? 03:35 metaweb : sometimes robust isn't what people want tho 03:35 rmack1272 : puts more social tools needed to share in place 03:36 metaweb : ok -- gonna watch along 03:36 scottmerrick : lol @briancsmith--good description 03:36 VanishingPoint : @metaweb exactly, but I would caution against limiting them with a porential different tool... 03:36 mrplough07-1 : has anyone created a diigo url for an annotated page, and sent that to a non diigo user, and found out whether or not they can see your annotations? 03:36 metaweb : the 1st thing that I found difficult in Diigo is creating a network, in delicious easy to see who your friends are following 03:37 mrplough07-1 : @metaweb, you can see all of a persons friends with one click on their pic 03:37 metaweb : ok 03:38 mrplough07-1 : I posted it in the user forum in diigo but havent got any feedback on that yet 03:38 mrsdurff : it was a speedy bandwagon 03:39 briancsmith : It's "super del.icio.us" 03:39 mrsdurff : isn't there an add-on for FF? 03:39 rmack1272 : @mrsduff yes 03:39 briancsmith : absolutely, but I'd be weary of using this one right off the bat. 03:39 scottmerrick : uh-uh, no toe dipping analogy! 03:39 mrplough07-1 : @scott - lol\ 03:40 scottmerrick : more like 'dipping your brain' 03:40 briancsmith : It brings in all the other tools, but if a noob doesn't have all those tools is it really necessary? 03:40 mrsdurff : dipping your brain - what a good metaphor 03:40 briancsmith : I've been surprised by the response from something as simple as Del.icio.us 03:40 * scottmerrick notes Will Richardson on "conversation about conversations" recently 03:41 VanishingPoint : @briancsmith no, but it would be nice to see a version that you can expand by choice. I know that Diigo based on Sunday's elluminate session will be looking into an ed specific version... maybe we could request that ... turn on/off features 03:42 mrplough07-1 : Is there a way to mass remove 'shared bookmarks' when dont want to read them 03:42 mrsdurff : delete? 03:43 mrplough07-1 : looks like you have to click on each shared bookmark by saying 'thanks' or 'quick save' 03:43 mrsdurff : hope this is recorded 03:43 scottmerrick : like a "mark as read" mass selection tool? 03:43 mrsdurff : people talking loudly around me 03:44 mrplough07-1 : @scott; exactly 03:44 metaweb : @mrplough07-1 I just clicked on my profile pic and nada ... can you be more specific on how to facilitate adding people to diigo network 03:44 metaweb : .. or perhaps they can demonstrate adding person B's freinds to your own Diigo network 03:44 mrplough07-1 : @metaweb- referring to following the friends of those that follow you, if you click on one of your friends, you can see all of their friends on one screen 03:45 mrsdurff : why is Diigo more valuable than delicious? 03:45 jgustin : @ durff I think it is being recorded 03:45 chriswherley : i think it is valuable to be able to share with groups. If I could get my teachers to utilize groups only within our school. Then I could share BMs with them easier. 03:45 mrplough07-1 : @metaweb- well, not one screen, but a long list 03:46 mrsdurff : so a school would have a group on Diigo? 03:46 robinellis : they could Durff 03:46 chriswherley : delicious I can share as well, but just seems like I am sharing to individuals 03:46 mrsdurff : so how would i set that up? 03:47 mrsdurff : i hate email 03:47 chriswherley : when emailing then they need a place to store them 03:48 chriswherley : also when using groups. If I create a group, share BMs. As teachers join, the group BMs will be there for them. 03:48 VanishingPoint : @mrplough07-1 Look here: http://www.diigo.com/friends/vanishingpoint you should see on the right of each user, a "Friend Request" 03:49 mrplough07-1 : @mrsdurff- you can create a group and send out invitations to your teachers/students and those are the only people can join 03:49 mrsdurff : thinking ahead to next school year for that 03:50 VanishingPoint : @ddraper get to the TC of the district or building. and have them add it. I did that for delicious this year, and plan on adding newsgator and diigo next year 03:50 mrplough07 : @vanishingpoint- thanks, I was trying to walk metaweb through how to do that 03:50 mrsdurff : scott was it valuable to the community in your school? 03:50 VanishingPoint : hehe... fuzzy head ww.zoho.com aahmazing! 04:03 jgustin : Bye Scott 04:03 mrsdurff : writing it dcown for the wkend 04:03 darrendraper-1 : See you later, Scott. 04:03 VanishingPoint : @mrsdurff... you'll need a week :) 04:03 jeffmason : Are your groups established by email invite or can you find current diigo users in diigo and add them? (kinda' like follow in twitter) 04:03 briancsmith : gotta go folks! Thanks for the conversation. 04:03 VanishingPoint : @jeffmason all of the above 04:03 VanishingPoint : Take care brian 04:04 jgustin : bye Brian 04:04 mrsdurff : a week to write it down? you most know me rather well then 04:04 VanishingPoint : lol 04:04 mrplough07 : @kristin- can you demonstrate the 'twitter this' function 04:04 metaweb : let's watch twitter all day ..... 04:04 mrplough07 : I tried it once and didnt get it to go through 04:05 mrsdurff : i started kids in google docs and liked the zoho better but it was the middle of the yr 04:05 VanishingPoint : @mrplough-07 sometimes it takes quite a bit of time. 04:05 mrplough07 : a couple days? 04:05 mrplough07 : lol 04:05 VanishingPoint : Cory that is how I shared the link about the initial blog tools you commented back to me on 04:05 mrplough07 : twitter this function 04:06 mrsdurff : mmm - what's for dinner? 04:06 metaweb : I need to use Diigo more 04:06 jeffmason : could this be blocked by a school filtering system? 04:06 mrsdurff : It's Elementary has been using it 04:06 metaweb : the summary prompted me to try it .. that we can get into discussions not just stay on the surface 04:07 mrsdurff : and Making Connections 04:07 mrplough07 : @kristin @robin - can you please walk through TWITTER THIS function 04:07 jgustin : @ jeff I'm sure it could 04:07 hockeymom-9246 : @jeff it's not at my school but delicous is 04:07 VanishingPoint : @mrplough-07 check now... 04:07 mrsdurff : where? 04:08 mrsdurff : on the wiki - great! 04:08 metaweb : I just searched Diigo groups for "authentic learning" .. but didnt see anyting .. what is the URL 04:08 VanishingPoint : @mrplough I just got the twit I sent from diigo 04:08 jeffmason : I think this violates my district's AUP for online app 04:08 VanishingPoint : @jeffmason why? 04:08 mrplough07 : @ vanish, just checked archive and it never went through, Im wondering if I did anything wrong 04:09 mrsdurff : is that on the homepage? 04:09 robinellis-1 : Durff are you talking about openpd wiki? 04:09 mrplough07 : @vanishpoint - just got your tweet about openpd 04:09 VanishingPoint : Try doing it again and be sure you heck the twitter box... then try the save and sed function 04:09 mrsdurff : yes robin - not where? 04:09 VanishingPoint : grrr. save and send 04:09 jeffmason : just conservative aup no google docs, vthread, etc 04:10 robinellis-1 : it is a link on the left at the bottom of the navigation we will be moving it to the social networking page later 04:10 VanishingPoint : @jeffmason that is one you need to go to bat against. your dist is cussing off all 21st c skills 04:10 robinellis-1 : @Durff under Discussions now 04:10 jgustin : @ Jeff Wow that is disappointing. Most AUPs are less specific than that 04:10 mrsdurff : k robin 04:11 VanishingPoint : er cutting 04:11 VanishingPoint : @mrplough just got your tweet via diigo 04:11 mrsdurff : thank you kristen 04:11 jeffmason : thanks 04:11 darrendraper-1 : Thanks all! 04:11 hockeymom-9246 : Thank you 04:11 metaweb : thanks 04:11 VanishingPoint : THanks Kristin! 04:11 mrplough07 : @vp- awesome 04:11 mrplough07 : thanks kristin 04:11 lindseybp-1 : Thank you all very much. And thanks for recording this as well. 04:11 mrsdurff : bye everyone and thank you 04:11 VanishingPoint : Have a great one all! 04:12 mrplough07 : bye bye y'all, back again tomorrow 04:12 VanishingPoint : I will be back for OpenPD tomorrow, pending death ;)