Session+5+round+3+chat

01:49 kgustin : can hear jamie 01:50 kgustin : got her now 01:50 kgustin : viscisous loop 01:51 mrplough07 : ouch! 01:51 kgustin : thank you 01:52 kgustin : vicious 01:52 kgustin : i can spell, just can't type 01:52 mrplough07 : sounds good from here, in here, on here 01:53 openpd : Thanks, I was getting some feedback 01:55 kgustin : @jamie - ash said she had to tutor, will look at archive later. 04:56 JamieGustin : Ok 04:58 kgustin : Yikes 04:58 iwhite : hello Kerrie 04:58 darrendraper : 15 minutes to reboot? Ouch! 04:59 kgustin : sore spot! 05:00 kgustin : this is interesting! 05:04 mrplough07 : I cant, no Skype at school, sorry would love to 05:04 kgustin : I'm totally lost, not much to share 05:04 kgustin : I can if you want me though 05:04 suewaters : Hi 05:04 kgustin : Kerrie Gustin, 2nd grade, Magnolia, Texas 05:05 kgustin : Hi Sue! 05:05 robinellis : Hi Sue happy morning :) 05:05 mrplough07 : Las Vegas, Odyssey Charter Schools, role is becoming universal, but teaching right now 05:05 kgustin : Thanks for sharing your vacation! 05:05 suewaters : Please guys contain your happiness 05:05 kgustin : grumpy? 05:05 mrsdurff : is there sound? 05:05 suewaters : I need to put on my sunglasses it's that early 05:05 darrendraper : Hi Sue. Glad you could make it! Heard you had a short night. 05:05 chriswherley : williamsville, il k-12 around 1400 students. Tech Coordinator 05:05 darrendraper : Yep. Sound works. 05:05 kgustin : poor Sue. 05:06 darrendraper : I'm in Salt Lake City, UT. Curriculum technology specialist. 05:06 suewaters : yes apparently I got less than 3 hours sleep 05:06 mrsdurff : ok refresh time 05:06 darrendraper : Those bloggers can be very dedicated. 05:06 JamieGustin : @durff it has been working 05:06 kgustin : I feel for you, that was me yesterday Sue 05:07 robinellis : Quakertown PA Instructional Tech Spec 05:08 JamieGustin : Magnolia, TX Elementary technology coach 05:08 mrplough07 : only 17 minutes left on skype download, love our wireless here 05:08 robinellis : Sue do you want to come into the call? 05:08 suewaters : Perth Western Australia 05:08 suewaters : Sure 05:08 tlehmann : tammy lehmann, magnolia 05:09 kgustin : Loved Darrens Falling From the Tree post 05:09 jmaklary : Hi everybody, I'm late as usual 05:09 mrplough07 : I discovered that PLUGINS hard to use 05:09 mrsdurff : I wrote this for hw http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/literacy.html 05:09 suewaters : hi John 05:09 robinellis : Hi John happy to have you 05:09 jmaklary : Hi Sue, Hi Robin 05:09 suewaters : Which plugins? 05:10 mrsdurff : i went to the RSS to find sth that resonated 05:11 darrendraper : A+ 05:11 mrsdurff : ty 05:11 mrplough07 : hah 05:11 suewaters : I think @Darren forgot to give me homework 05:11 mrplough07 : oh sure 05:11 cheryloakes : Can I audit this class, on vacation and here at the right time finally. 05:11 mrsdurff : define plugins 05:11 mrplough07 : wish edublogs had instructions to go with plugin 05:11 kgustin : I think I'm just code challenged 05:11 suewaters : which plugins exactly MrPlough? 05:12 suewaters : then I can follow up 05:12 mrsdurff : Amen 05:12 mrplough07 : hold on, pulling up @suewaters 05:12 mrsdurff : Amen twice 05:12 mrsdurff : i get an A! 05:12 mrsdurff : but they can be brilliant too 05:12 kgustin : The Edublogger has great manuals that I have been living with to try to figure things out. 05:12 mrmosesdotorg : Not sure how it works with edublogs but many of the plugins with WordPress plugins require close reading of the "readme.txt" files.. 05:12 suewaters : I think we do have 05:13 mrmosesdotorg : and then sometimes they still have trouble wokring 05:13 mrsdurff : yes! 05:13 mrplough07 : the 'subscribe to comments' plugin is activated but not sure how to get it on page 05:13 cheryloakes : Durff, nice post. We have MARVEL in Maine and it is a compilation of many databases, trying to get teachers to use it more. 05:13 mrplough07 : @mrmosesdotorg - no text file for edublogs cuz not uploadable 05:13 suewaters : The subscribe to comments is for your readers from memory but I will get back to you 05:14 mrsdurff : oh hi cheryl 05:14 kgustin : go ahead and Skype me in 05:14 suewaters : thanks for telling me you want to know more about plugins 05:14 kgustin : i fixed it today 05:14 mrplough07 : edublogs needs 'simple tags' plugin for Technorati Tags 05:14 suewaters : will check that the changes to the platform before I write about plugins 05:14 kgustin : i fixed it today 05:14 mrplough07 : edublogs needs 'simple tags' plugin for Technorati Tags 05:14 suewaters : will check that the changes to the platform before I write about plugins 05:14 suewaters : forget technorati tags 05:14 cheryloakes : Hi Durff 05:14 suewaters : :) 05:14 mrplough07 : @suewaters haha 05:14 mrplough07 : I read that on your blog 05:15 mrmosesdotorg : Again, not sure if the plugin for EduBlogs for video comments is there, but I just put that one in and I had a nice back and forth with someone: 05:15 suewaters : honestly you don't need the tags and I will promise to write why 05:15 darrendraper : http://tinyurl.com/6zmgtl 05:15 mrmosesdotorg : http://mrmoses.org/?p=289 05:15 mrsdurff : tag generator http://hitchhikr.com/make_tags.php 05:15 suewaters : sorry no video comments but leave a comment in the Edublogs forum and maybe they will consider 05:16 mrsdurff : not everyone understands that 05:16 jmaklary : Mine are ALWays profound! You guys just don't get it!!! ;-) 05:16 mrmosesdotorg : @ddraper - Orin? 05:16 mrsdurff : esp people outside the 'echo chamber' 05:16 mrsdurff : not sure why 05:16 tlehmann : finally in- computers? 05:16 mrsdurff : @maklary LOL 05:17 jmaklary : @durff - why are you laughing? 05:17 mrsdurff : a lot 05:17 jmaklary : @durff - why are you laughing? 05:17 mrsdurff : a lot 05:17 mrsdurff : you claim to be always profound 05:17 mrsdurff : no one is 05:17 suewaters : Jon Becker? 05:17 jmaklary : in my wildest dreams! 05:17 kgustin : I was astounded when I got comments on my first post. Thanks guys! 05:17 mrsdurff : then you are more wild than I 05:18 darrendraper : No, it wasn't Orrin Hatch. He's a definite black eye to Utah's representation. IMHO. 05:18 jmaklary : actually, I don't blog enough at all... 05:18 mrsdurff : be nice 05:18 mrmosesdotorg : @darren - ha 05:18 kgustin : I like the map widget. I know more are reading than commenting 05:19 suewaters : you have to make time to comment :) 05:19 darrendraper : http://kgustin.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/why-am-i-doing-this-and-how-is-it-good-for-these-kids/ 05:19 mrmosesdotorg : If comments are happening, perhaps putting in a Cluster Map or using Google Analytics would help to let you know that people are checking it out 05:19 kgustin : thank you 05:19 mrmosesdotorg : *are not 05:19 suewaters : he writes well 05:20 suewaters : it helps that he is a good writer 05:20 joedale : Hi everyone 05:20 darrendraper : Hi Joe. 05:20 robinellis : Hi Joe thanks for coming 05:20 kgustin : Hi Joe 05:21 mrsdurff : First Rate Blog Post http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html 05:21 joedale : It's 10.20 p.m here. 05:21 darrendraper : Anybody else wanna jump into the call? 05:21 mrsdurff : hi Joe! 05:21 suewaters : lazy Joe :) 05:21 joedale : :) 05:21 darrendraper : Git 'er done! 05:23 mrmosesdotorg : Darrens last two posts have been great 05:23 jmaklary : anyone get a look at Stephanie Sandifer's latest post/rant? 05:23 darrendraper : http://tinyurl.com/5gthjq 05:23 kgustin : @mrmoses - I agree! 05:23 robinellis : Yes John I did 05:23 mrsdurff : @maklary no, tell us 05:23 mrsdurff : he IS kidding 05:24 suewaters : don't tell me Rick? 05:24 mrsdurff : set theory is 2nd grade 05:24 jmaklary : I'll grab the link... 05:24 jmaklary : http://www.ed421.com/?p=453 05:25 mrsdurff : which is thwe entire pt - yes robin 05:25 suewaters : that is about Ecology 05:25 suewaters : and ecosystems 05:25 kgustin : I see a lot of buzz about blog etiquette - is there a guide somewhere? 05:25 suewaters : go for it Joe 05:25 mrsdurff : yes sue but applied to other areas 05:25 suewaters : maybe a bit tired and cold 05:26 mrsdurff : @kgustin yes http://durffsblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/write-first-rate-blog-post.html 05:26 kgustin : @durff - thanks 05:26 mrsdurff : we all find that Joe 05:27 mrsdurff : btw there are 50 viewers 05:27 mrmosesdotorg : I don't know if anyone else is using Google Reader, but here's the post's I've shared recently http://www.google.com/reader/shared/09543714457139376540 05:27 mrmosesdotorg : those are the ones that have had the most impact on me 05:28 suewaters : found one finally 05:28 suewaters : http://www.johnconnell.co.uk/blog/?p=788#comment-56916 05:28 darrendraper : Great posts, Glenn. 05:28 JamieGustin-5760 : @ mrmosesWe are going to discuss Google reader could you discuss that in the chat? 05:28 suewaters : I use Google Reader 05:28 robinellis : Glenn do you want to come into the call to talk about what you shared in your reader? 05:28 tlehmann : kerrie, sharing one computer - interesting? 05:29 kgustin : @tammy - what happened to the other one? 05:29 mrmosesdotorg : I'd love to, but flying solo today 05:29 mrmosesdotorg : let's see how things are going when you get to the RSS part 05:29 tlehmann : one has sound. one let's us chat. can't connect on both 05:29 tlehmann : it's working. hearing everything! 05:29 suewaters : http://www.johnconnell.co.uk/blog/?p=788#comment-56916 05:30 mrsdurff : @maklary thanks 05:30 kgustin : whatever works :) 05:30 robinellis : Ok Glenn 05:30 mrsdurff : yes! 05:30 kgustin : yes! 05:31 tlehmann : getting lots of posts to look at - THANKS 05:31 darrendraper : I'm ready for a holiday. :) 05:31 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2007/11/welcome-to-gors.html 05:31 mrmosesdotorg : oh, I've had that photo problem 05:32 mrmosesdotorg : I used to be less careful 05:32 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2008/03/from-gorseville.html 05:32 suewaters : http://www.rashundatramble.com/2008/04/19/folks-using-my-pics-without-credit-ive-absolutely-had-it/ 05:32 mrsdurff : i think it is personally silly 05:32 mrmosesdotorg : me too 05:32 joedale : http://uk.youtube.com/user/gorseygorsey 05:32 mrsdurff : please use anything of mine anytime without acknowledgiomg me whatsoever thankyou! 05:32 suewaters : http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/ 05:33 mrplough07 : absolutley Sue!

05:32 suewaters : http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/ 05:33 mrplough07 : absolutley Sue! 05:34 suewaters : KFC no good for you 05:35 mrsdurff : KFC=Kentucky Fried Chicken? 05:35 suewaters : yes 05:35 suewaters : that is what it's called 05:35 mrsdurff : :) 05:36 kgustin : @ Sue The best things around are no good for you 05:36 suewaters : true but u should be feeding him better ROFL 05:36 kgustin : he does the cooking at our house 05:37 suewaters : :) 05:37 suewaters : copyright does me head in 05:38 kgustin : huge issue with our teachers too 05:38 suewaters : creative commons raises even more issues 05:38 mrmosesdotorg : how so, sue? 05:38 tlehmann : yes. iwhite & tlehmann use our own pics 05:38 kgustin : i use most of my own pics too 05:39 suewaters : because you need to understand there are so many types of creative commons and not all photos on Flickr are okay to us 05:39 kgustin : Durff sent a link to one of her posts 05:40 jmaklary : Is cross-linking simply creating a link to a referenced blog post? Or is it technically something else? 05:41 mrsdurff : GO! 05:41 mrsdurff : hum the jeopardy song 05:41 suewaters : no she hasn't written on blog etiquette 05:41 joedale : Can't you use Flickr Storm to find photos you can use? 05:41 kgustin : im humming 05:41 suewaters : sure but Johns give the attribution for you 05:42 suewaters : that covers you completely 05:42 jmaklary : so a linked picture wouldn't work for attribution 05:42 jmaklary : needs to be more explicit 05:43 kgustin : Explain the license thing please 05:43 darrendraper : Yes, Flickr Storm will also give you the citation as well. 05:43 robinellis : http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2008/02/blogging-tips-authenticity-transparency.html 05:43 kgustin : Jamie was asking for suggestions for the next session 05:43 kgustin : Yea Robin! 05:44 suewaters : http://www.skelliewag.org/a-complete-guide-to-finding-and-using-incredible-flickr-images-162.htm 05:44 kgustin : thanks Sue 05:45 jmaklary : http://www.zoo-m.com/flickr-storm/ 05:45 darrendraper : Another Flickr photo finder that I really like: http://compfight.com/ 05:45 joedale : http://joedale.typepad.com/integrating_ict_into_the_/2008/04/tumblr-kwout-tu.html 05:46 suewaters : this is a better search for Flickr Creative commons http://flickrcc.bluemountains.net/ 05:47 joedale : http://joedale.tumblr.com/ 05:47 Dramagirl : Photo Dropper and Zemanta are good for WP blogs. 05:48 suewaters : yes I wish we had photo dropper on Edublogs 05:48 cam0blam0 : whats this show about 05:48 robinellis : http://coolcatteacher.blogspot.com/2006/03/ten-habits-of-bloggers-that-win.html 05:48 suewaters : Hi dramagirl 05:48 kgustin : Must use caution when doing student blogs, linking to other places 05:48 Dramagirl : Hey Sue. 05:48 suewaters : I went to bed late :) and Frances was also bad 05:48 darrendraper : http://kwout.com/ 05:48 kgustin : that is why i try to stick with my own photography when possible 05:49 suewaters : that is why many bloggers take a camera out with them 05:49 Dramagirl : Anyone used the new plug-in which allows video comment on WP blogs. 05:49 darrendraper : That's why I just take a photo of the screen. :) 05:49 kgustin : my camera is attached to me pretty much at all times 05:49 suewaters : also I had a reader let me know that Flickr is being stripped from my posts due to blocking of Flickr by school districts 05:49 tlehmann : me too 05:50 Dramagirl : My iPhone camera has helped me out countless times. 05:50 mrsdurff : i'm still of a younger opinion that if it is posted on the internet is should be available and the arguments to the contrary are archaic. At the same time, I teach all learners to cite sources to the best of their ability. I guess I'm a contradiction in terms 05:50 suewaters : Well if we have taken the time to create we should be acknowledged for our work 05:50 mrsdurff : i'm still of a younger opinion that if it is posted on the internet is should be available and the arguments to the contrary are archaic. At the same time, I teach all learners to cite sources to the best of their ability. I guess I'm a contradiction in terms 05:50 suewaters : Well if we have taken the time to create we should be acknowledged for our work 05:50 kgustin : @ sue - I agree, I certainly would like to have credit for my photos 05:51 mrsdurff : if one has taken the time to post one is asking others to use it 05:51 Dramagirl : I have no problem with sharing. I like the whole spirit of open source and sharing, but I want acknowledgment for creativity. 05:51 kgustin : NetTrekker is great, but subscription 05:51 suewaters : I have less problems with my photos and get more angry when people copy all my words or my websites 05:51 Dramagirl : And not make money out of my efforts. Stealing, not to put too fine a point on it. 05:51 kgustin : not that doesn't have external links 05:51 jmaklary : MINTS ethemes is REALLY good 05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto 05:52 Dramagirl : Love iStockphoto 05:52 jmaklary : Mints that is 05:52 mrsdurff : there was yotophoto 05:52 mrsdurff : picasa 05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto is better 05:52 jmaklary : http://www.emints.org/ethemes/ 05:52 cchausis : Hi all... sorry to pop in so late 05:52 cchausis : Wow... you guys are on the "main" Ustream page! 05:53 njtechteacher : http://www.pictures4schools.com/ Haven't used yet, but found it recently 05:53 suewaters : well that is cool 05:53 mrsdurff : notoriety 05:53 suewaters : not a problem 05:53 kgustin : yotophoto went to lifehacker.com 05:53 mrsdurff : is that what happened? 05:53 njtechteacher : You're right K-8 I still worry about some what I've seen on Flickr 05:52 mrsdurff : iStockphoto is better 05:52 jmaklary : http://www.emints.org/ethemes/ 05:52 cchausis : Hi all... sorry to pop in so late 05:52 cchausis : Wow... you guys are on the "main" Ustream page! 05:53 njtechteacher : http://www.pictures4schools.com/ Haven't used yet, but found it recently 05:53 suewaters : well that is cool 05:53 mrsdurff : notoriety 05:53 suewaters : not a problem 05:53 kgustin : yotophoto went to lifehacker.com 05:53 mrsdurff : is that what happened? 05:53 njtechteacher : You're right K-8 I still worry about some what I've seen on Flickr 05:54 kgustin : just went there 05:54 suewaters : I notice that John Johnson grabs the pics for his students so that they can search for them from safe photos 05:54 cchausis : has anyone mentioned http://pics4learning.com? 05:54 mrsdurff : i don't use Flickr is school 05:54 suewaters : my kangaroos 05:54 mrsdurff : Flickr censores content in Germany 05:54 kgustin : we use flickr stream for our school homepage photostreams 05:55 cchausis : Darren is a star! 05:55 mrsdurff : without their knowledge 05:55 cchausis : But he is also high school 05:55 suewaters : that is a good idea from flickr storm 05:55 njtechteacher : THen the whole class share the same tray? 05:55 njtechteacher : Nice 05:55 suewaters : does it block the flickr storm URL? 05:56 suewaters : so the photos are stripped? 05:56 mrsdurff : but the point is for them to find the images, isn't it? 05:56 suewaters : true 05:56 joedale : Flickr is not blocked in our school 05:56 suewaters : Durff 05:56 mrsdurff : we have the same Jami 05:57 mrsdurff : there is Schooltube 05:57 suewaters : I'm glad you have all been Sue Waters and it looks like we missed RSS :) 05:57 mrsdurff : Teachertube 05:57 mrsdurff : Godtube 05:57 mrplough07 : bye y'all, gotta run 05:57 mrsdurff : and you can convert and upload elsewhere like Vimeo 05:57 robinellis : bye mrplough07 05:57 darrendraper : TeacherTube is fantastic. But it was MUCH better before they added all of the advertisements. :( 05:57 Dramagirl : Not the same blocking issues in Higher Ed at all. Feel for colleagues K-12. Sounds as though you are finding great work arounds though. 05:58 mrmosesdotorg : bye, cory 05:58 suewaters : bye Cory 05:58 darrendraper : My Cory. 05:58 jmaklary : TeacherTube = Very Slow, painfully slow 05:58 darrendraper : Woops. :) Bye Cory. 05:58 mrsdurff : filters do teach - how to work around 05:58 mrmosesdotorg : I guess he can be your Cory :) 05:58 suewaters : and Teachertube can be hard to embed 05:58 mrsdurff : teaches the kids very well 05:58 jmaklary : I'll check it out again. 05:58 mrsdurff : Schooltube 05:59 Dramagirl : @mrsdurff ... and teaching them about control too! 05:59 kgustin : YouTube still has better content, just because of the larger community 05:59 cchausis : thanks for Schooltube.com... hadn't seen that one yet 05:59 cchausis : also... Google videos? 05:59 mrsdurff : how to use proxies 05:59 suewaters : Google is often blocked 05:59 mrsdurff : and U3 flashdrives 05:59 Dramagirl : Gotta run! Great PD folks. Catch you next time. 05:59 mrsdurff : yes 05:59 suewaters : see you Kate 06:00 suewaters : Sue did it again 06:00 mrsdurff : ah sue 06:00 mrsdurff : we love you 06:00 kgustin : Great discussion though 06:00 cchausis : thanks for having us! 06:00 mrmosesdotorg : thanks for putting this on 06:00 joedale : Cheers guys 06:00 mrsdurff : ew worms 06:00 kgustin : We love you Sue 06:00 njtechteacher : Good night - thanks again. 06:00 inpi-1 : Thank you 06:00 robinellis : bye Ann 06:00 tlehmann : great discussion - lots of ideas 06:01 kgustin : Yea Joe! 06:01 tlehmann : Yes! 06:01 mrsdurff : he wants out of work 06:01 cchausis : are you archiving the chat on the wiki? 06:01 natmanderson : bye 06:01 kgustin : Thanks everyone this has been great! 06:01 KimberlyMcClain : bye 06:01 jmaklary : good job guys/gals - Jamie, send tech specs of session please..whenever convenient 06:01 hockeymom1788 : Thanks everyone for the great links. 06:01 kgustin : I need help with RSS so come back 06:01 mrmosesdotorg : Great job, OpenPD crew. This project rocks, everso hard. 06:01 mrsdurff : url? 06:01 kgustin : Yes, thanks Sue 06:02 robinellis : Thanks Glenn always good to have you in the sessions 06:02 mrsdurff : yes sir 06:02 mrsdurff : go sue 06:02 kgustin : Go Edublogger,Go! 06:02 mrsdurff : i 2nd the motion 06:02 suewaters : http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/03/29/how-i-use-rss-to-make-my-life-easier/ 06:02 suewaters : http://theedublogger.edublogs.org/2008/03/28/are-you-making-your-life-easier-by-using-rss/ 06:02 kgustin : I like that rule 06:03 kgustin : That is a good idea! 06:03 mrsdurff : RSS=Really Serious Stressrelief 06:03 kgustin : I don't know about that. 06:03 jmaklary : Jamie, you submitting a TCEA preso, due on May 2 06:03 jmaklary : ?? 06:03 JamieGustin-5760 : I want to submit open PD 06:04 JamieGustin-5760 : something on Open PD 06:04 jmaklary : Hmmm, sounds interesting, if you want a cohort, lemme know